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Hatred runs deep in the NRL

Discussion in 'Rugby League Forum' started by Berkeley_Eagle, Apr 30, 2013.

  1. Berkeley_Eagle

    Berkeley_Eagle Current Status: 24/7 Manly Fan 2016 Tipping Competitor

    +2,097 / 13
    Hatred runs deep in the NRL
    By Ryan O'Connell,

    Watching the game of the year so far on Friday night, as the South Sydney Rabbitohs and Manly Sea Eagles battled it out at Brookvale Oval, it dawned on me just how much hatred plays an integral part in the success of rugby league.

    Every NRL fan wants their team to do well, but they also have a vested interest in witnessing the pain and/or defeat of the opponents they love to hate. And surprisingly, it is not just Manly.
    The Sea Eagles have always been a club that other teams’ fans have enjoyed disliking. It harks back to their ‘slivertails’ days when they earned a reputation of stealing other teams’ best players.

    Yet there is certainly a modern day hatred for the club from the Northern Beaches of Sydney as well.

    Apart from their success – the main ingredient in any case of hatred – a lot of the vitriol towards the club can be attributed to Steve Matai; a player whose frequency of visits to the NRL judiciary means he should pay rent there.

    This is a man who single-handedly prevented Darren Lockyer playing in a semi-final two years ago. The legendary Brisbane Broncos five-eighth was nursing a broken cheekbone, and doctors advised him against playing because they thought Matai might target him.

    That’s right, Lockyer didn’t play in a game of football because of the public knowledge Matai would attack his weakness. Never mind that ‘weakness’ was Lockyer’s head, and targeting it would have therefore been illegal.

    Though to be fair to Matai, he is far from the only reason to hate Manly.

    Coach Geoff Toovey has a PhD in whinging. The Stewart brothers aren’t adverse to cheap shots and punch-ups. Anthony Watmough is the poster child for despised NRL players. Dave ‘The Wolfman’ Williams choked in Origin. Kieran Foran is a Kiwi and Daly Cherry-Evans is a Queenslander, right when NSW needs some halves.

    If it feels like I’m singling Manly out, it’s because I am. I hate them.

    Though in the interests of fairness and objectivity, it’s worth noting I respect the Manly football club tremendously, and the hatred simply allows me to enjoy football even more.

    After all, every good story needs a villain, and it’s nice to be passionate about games my team isn’t even playing in.

    To that point, and for those who don’t already know, I follow the Bulldogs.

    Before you bombard me, allow me to admit that between cheating the salary cap, being involved in something ‘untoward’ in Coffs Harbour, Willie Mason’s mouth, James Graham biting Billy Slater, Josh Reynolds’ niggling, the club’s Mad Monday antics last year, Des Hasler’s crankiness, Michael Ennis’ sledging, Ben Barba getting suspended, and the behaviour of some of the club’s fans, I can certainly appreciate why the Dogs are widely hated too.

    In fact, every fan has a justification, or simply creates a subplot, in order to rationalise their hatred of another team.

    The Melbourne Storm cheated the salary cap, allegedly brought the much-maligned ‘grapple’ tackle into the game, plus they’re from AFL country.

    The Cronulla Sharks have a drug cloud hanging over them, the Penrith Panthers are run by Gus Gould, and the Wests Tigers used to be everyone’s darlings, but now they’re just perceived as petulant losers.

    The Newcastle Knights have Darius Boyd, who makes Wayne Bennett look like Robin Williams when it comes to interviews.

    The Gold Coast Titans seem to always have some off-field dramas, the Parramatta Eels just plain stink, and the Canberra Raiders’ green jerseys are historically ugly.

    The St George Illawarra Dragons gave us Anthony Mundine, Jamie Soward, and will no doubt be signing Josh Dugan any minute.

    The South Sydney Rabbitohs have a developed a superiority complex, the North Queensland Cowboys’ Johnathan Thurston abuses referees, and the New Zealand Warriors are from New Zealand.

    The Brisbane Broncos are very successful, receive the benefit of being a one-town team, and have Justin Hodges giving everyone an earful.

    And the Roosters are the Roosters. Enough said.

    As you can tell from the above, reality doesn’t need to factor into your particular hatred. After all, emotion is very rarely rational, and hatred is just about the most powerful emotion that exists.

    The hatred isn’t contained to fans either. Over the years, feuds in rugby league have often been the biggest stories and have gained most of the media coverage in the game.

    Don’t believe me? Just consider the hatred that runs thick between the following rugby league personalities:

    Phil Rothfield and Gus Gould. David Gallop and Brett Stewart. Mal Meninga and the NSW media. Adam MacDougall and Russell Crowe. George Piggins and Andrew Denton.

    Paul Harragon and Mark Carroll. Mario Fenech and Benny Elias. Jason Taylor and Michael Hagan. Bill Harrigan and Bob Fulton. Peter Sterling/Ray Price/Brett Kenny and Dennis Fitzgerald.

    Ray Hadley and everybody.

    I could easily list plenty more.

    While every sport has their rivalries, along with personalities that don’t necessarily see eye-to-eye, few sports thrive on pure hatred as much as rugby league does.

    Make no mistake about it, there is nothing contrived or manufactured about the bad blood that exists in the code. In fact, in many ways, the hatred is the lifeblood of the game.

    So don’t hide that venom, let it out. You wouldn’t be a rugby league fan if you didn’t have a little bit of hated in you.
  2. Clint

    Clint . Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    What a great article. Bring on the hate. It's just the way we like it.
  3. Narly

    Narly Active Member

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    This is a cut & paste from Roy. It's it!
  4. Berkeley_Eagle

    Berkeley_Eagle Current Status: 24/7 Manly Fan 2016 Tipping Competitor

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  5. eagle-rock08

    eagle-rock08 Active Member

    +70 / 0
    That's OK Ryan - you can hate Manly.

    Because Manly hates you too.

    But all we fans want is consistency in ref's decisions based on the rules not based on the club.

    I haven't been to Coffs Harbour for a while, have you?
  6. Narly

    Narly Active Member

    +31 / 0
    Masters from SMH. The guy that started the whole fribo/silvertail story.
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  7. Frogz

    Frogz Don't mess with the goat, he has photos. Premium Member

    Sydney, Australia
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    Gee he forgot to mention the terry Lamb hit on Ellery Hanley in the grand final...the drug taking at Newcastle...

    What else can we drag out to hate the others even more....I ahte them all
  8. eagles2win

    eagles2win Well-Known Member

    +494 / 0
    Forgets to mention the great job of being a mate that Bullfrog did to Arko and the rest of the league.
  9. Dan

    Dan Administrator Staff Member Administrator 2016 Tipping Competitor

    Amsterdam, The Netherlands
    +5,437 / 74
    lol I like how he attributed Lockyer not playing because he feared Matai might target him....umm yeah ok like that is Matai's fault that someone suggested it might happen, not that it did, or he would just someone suggested it might. What a load of rubbish.

    But the rest of the article is ok
  10. manlyfan76

    manlyfan76 Parra Trolls are the best. Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

    Anywhere but Parramatta
    +5,138 / 100
    He is not a real Doggy fan, either that or his spell check is a super advanced version that can translate his dribble into english.
  11. HappilyManly

    HappilyManly MWTS Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    The NRL are well on the way of next charging Matai for 'perceived' intimidation Grade N :mad:

    Wolfie also isn't the only Premiership winning Player to not make an impact in Origin :mad:

    Must be a slow news day to rehash the old hatred line :cool:

    The ASADA fiasco, the young Players' suicides, the spate of leg injuries due to the Scum grapple/wrestle tactics and the ticketing pricing, prohibiting Fans from attending games, must all have been reported and resolved already:dodgy:
  12. Oliver

    Oliver Active Member

    +118 / 1
    "Coach Geoff Toovey has a PhD in whinging"

    Surely I'm not the only one seeing the irony in this? Sue this idiot for libel re: Matai comments just for the lols.
  13. robbiea

    robbiea Well-Known Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

    +1,494 / 57
  14. Eagleheart

    Eagleheart Well-Known Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    The involvement of various bulldogs players was far from being 'untoward' in Coffs Harbour, it was downright criminal.....! Freaking grubs....! :mad:
  15. Chip and Chase

    Chip and Chase True Supporter Staff Member Administrator Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

    +6,261 / 44
    Bring it on. Love the hate.
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  16. WESTIE

    WESTIE Well-Known Member

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    had a look at the article...and below is has the following -

    " Ryan is an ex-representative basketballer who shot too much, and a (very) medium pace bowler. He's been with The Roar as an expert since February 2011, has written for the Seven Network and NBA Down Under, and been a regular on ABC radio. Ryan tweets from @RyanOak.
  17. Mark from Brisbane

    Mark from Brisbane Living the dream Premium Member

    +12,049 / 238
    Ryan who??

    And they wonder why we have banners that say "No ones likes us and we don't care" or "Guess what Manly hates you too!"

    I will have supported this club for 50 years in 2015 and to be honst for much of that time it's been the same old same old

    So bring it on Ryan who??

    We suck it in and get stronger as a result of your hatred
  18. mickqld

    mickqld Sack Greenslime 2016 Tipping Competitor

    Gold Coast
    +3,720 / 55
    I think 2V's professor when he was doing his PhD in whinging was a Bulldog coach named Des you amoeba.
  19. Brooke

    Brooke Well-Known Member

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    I think it is pretty hypocritical that Souths fans, coach etc are throwing so many stones at the Manly Players.

    As for the media I heard Rebecca Wilson going off last night because Stevie only got one week .

    Maybe they all need to be reminded how poor Greggie who they claim is being targeted by the Manly thugs lives is a glass house.

    I still have the image of his wife ( then fiancée) with the two black eyes he gave her when the neighbours had to call the police in 2009. ..... This and one of his other finer moments being when he smashed Dean Young . As DY was being stretchered off the field Inglis stood there smirking about it.
  20. MissKate

    MissKate Well-Known Member Premium Member

    +1,016 / 7
    What a pathetic individual - is this mr invisible

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