When new players come to the club, and we've had alot this season, who's been there to teach them the discipline that Manly have showed over the past decade to win premierships, plays in finals and grand finals, no one! Why you say, because we have coaching staff that haven't didn't even have the discipline themselves to win premierships! Anthony Seibold for example, head of defence, was great under Bellamy, but that's because Bellamy did his job for him. How are Melbourne going now that he has left? 14 Rounds, we have had no improvement, yes we've had injuries, but we've had injuries before, and to lead by 20, to get run down on your own home ground. The players can score points, we saw that today, but when they can't hold a lead, it shows you that they lack discipline, which in rugby league can't be gained automatcally, it has to be taught to you. Do you think just on luck that the discipline showed by Melbourne, Nth Qld, Brisbane etc was gained just by luck, it wasn't. Craig Bellamy and Wayne Bennett, look at the players they have taken on over the years and turned them into champions because they teach discipline!