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3rd Party deals

Discussion in 'Rugby League Forum' started by Berkeley_Eagle, Mar 15, 2012.

  1. Berkeley_Eagle

    Berkeley_Eagle Current Status: 24/7 Manly Fan 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    3rd Party deals

    How do these exactly work ?
    Are they included in the cap
     
  2. mmmdl

    mmmdl Active Member

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    RE: 3rd Party deals

    I believe that if they are by a club related sponsor, organised by the club, or only available whilst the player is at the club, then yes, it counts.

    If it is a sponsorship that would make no difference where they played (ie - Marshall and the Footy Show), then it doesn't count.
     
  3. Ralphie

    Ralphie Well-Known Member Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    RE: 3rd Party deals

    3rd party deals were introduced because some high profile players were able to command significant cash to promote a business or appear as a commentator (Ala Smith on Fox).

    The NRL allows 3rd party deals with businesses that are not a current sponsor of the club and the club cannot make any guarantees in relation to any income derived from that 3rd party deal. I don't think the club can even arrange the deal, it has to be negotiated separately by the players agent.

    Unfotunately some clubs such as the donkeys have abused the system through their thoroughbreds group of businessmen who routinely organise 3rd party deals to top up players contracts.
     
  4. ManlyBacker

    ManlyBacker Winging it Staff Member

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    RE: 3rd Party deals

    From http://www.nrl.com/nrlhq/referencecentre/salarycap/tabid/10434/default.aspx which outlines all cap restrictions for all club teams including Toyota Cup.

    In 2006, the NRL also introduced an allowance for players who enter into Third Party Agreements with club sponsors. In 2011, the top 25 players are allowed to earn up to a maximum $300,000 from sponsorship leveraging but the total payments under these sponsorship leveraging agreements must not exceed $300,000 per club.

    Third Party Agreements

    Third party agreements are payments made by companies directly to players. There is no restriction on the amount a player can earn through third party agreements where he is being paid for his own intellectual property, without the need to employ club logos or names and where the company involved is neither a club sponsor nor are they acting on behalf of a club to secure the player’s services. An example of this is a player promoting a brand or product, for example, Billy Slater and Australian Bananas.

    Many players do have third party agreements that are outside the salary cap. Individual players have registered third party agreements totalling in excess of $7.5 million in 2011.

    All third party agreements must be registered and approved beforehand. This is to ensure that they do not become a way for clubs or players to use sponsors or third parties to undermine the salary cap. There are provisions for club sponsors to enter into agreements with elite players and for details see the Marquee Player Allowance section (which I believe is 300k *MB).
     
  5. Berkeley_Eagle

    Berkeley_Eagle Current Status: 24/7 Manly Fan 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    RE: 3rd Party deals

    57,000 FB fans $20 each
    Could that be a 3rd party deal sort of
     
  6. swoop

    swoop Well-Known Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    RE: 3rd Party deals

    I started a thread about this a week ago, surely Penn, Quantum and Delmege could have mates not associated with the club to sponsor some players.
     
  7. joeboy

    joeboy Well-Known Member

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    RE: 3rd Party deals

    Hugh jackman could sponsor each player 50 000..

    Is it weird that such a high profile supporter doesn't seem to be utilised by the club at all, if only for marketing( but the dollars would be nice too!)

    The club had better not be sitting on there hands, it's kinda imperative they drop some good news this week!
     
  8. Dan

    Dan Administrator Staff Member Administrator 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    RE: 3rd Party deals

    haha I'll give DCE free access to the tipping comp, now that's value
     
  9. Masked Eagle

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    The Wolfman could be in Wolverine!!!!
     
  10. Frogz

    Frogz Don't mess with the goat, he has photos. Premium Member

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    RE: 3rd Party deals

    Exactly...members and FB people...tip in....Im in for $500
     
  11. Ralphie

    Ralphie Well-Known Member Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    RE: 3rd Party deals

    I'm in for $500 too
     
  12. Frogz

    Frogz Don't mess with the goat, he has photos. Premium Member

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    RE: 3rd Party deals

    Gotta remember we need some for Foran also.......come on 1000 people for $500....how hard can it be
     
  13. Frogz

    Frogz Don't mess with the goat, he has photos. Premium Member

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    RE: 3rd Party deals

    Come on...Eagles Angels....Lets start a fund....Lets get onto the big end of town....You all have connections.....just a few grand here a few grand there...here a grand there a grand...everywhere a superstar player staying.....
     
  14. manlyfan76

    manlyfan76 Parra Trolls are the best. Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Emergency 3rd party

    Ok so why not an emergency 3rd party agreement. If we the fans set up a $2 company and get 5000 fans to donate or buy shares to the value of $20 that's 100k to help keep dce. Hell 2companies and donate an average of $40 each that's two 3rd party deals of 100 k each??? Its that or Manly can register as a religion and stop paying tax and as we all worship on Sundays we are half way there. I think you only need 500 members to start a religion. Praise Bozo!
     
  15. Dan

    Dan Administrator Staff Member Administrator 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    RE: Emergency 3rd party

    a party? oooooh will there be a cake?
     
  16. manlyfan76

    manlyfan76 Parra Trolls are the best. Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    RE: Emergency 3rd party

    Cherry pie for everyone. Maybe 4ncherry pie
     
  17. voicefromthehill

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    RE: Emergency 3rd party

    Warrant - now there was a Glam metal band
     
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  18. The Eagle

    The Eagle Well-Known Member

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    Trolls.....goshdarn them
     
  19. Jatz Crackers

    Jatz Crackers Moderator Staff Member

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    RE: Emergency 3rd party

    I feel a clown will arrive next at this party.
     
  20. DSM5

    DSM5 Well-Known Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    RE: Emergency 3rd party

    I'll be a shareholder.
     
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