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2016 - Manly worst season since the Northern Beagles in 2003

Discussion in 'Rugby League Forum' started by XV-1, Aug 21, 2016.

  1. XV-1

    XV-1 Well-Known Member

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    The stats are pretty damming and obvious for everyone to see.

    Currently on 20 points with 2 games to go after failing in 2015 on 26 points.

    Our worst season since the dark cloud that was the Northern Beagles in 2003.

    As our leaders and owners have said. This is a results driven business.

    How long will Barret have in 2017 before he is moved on for a Manly bred coach?
     
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  2. Lyonstomenzies

    Lyonstomenzies Well-Known Member

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    Last year before we went into a game I though we were always s good chance of winning.

    This year before most games I knew we were going to lose.

    Bring on 2017.
     
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  3. bones

    bones Bones Knows Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    I love Tooves but we finished on 26 points in 2015, not 30.
     
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  4. wombatgc

    wombatgc Well-Known Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    The season was over as soon as that green blob made its way onto the front of the jerseys.
     
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  5. maxta

    maxta Well-Known Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    If Manly don't start the season with 5-6 injuries again in 2017 - especially Key Positions & results are similar after 12 rounds - will be tough to handle - I think they will be in the 8 or better, as some great resolve is being hurt by main players unavailable recently - not effort - this indicates the players are still tight as a group & won't be surprised with a win next week against the Raiders...
     
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  6. double hoops

    double hoops Well-Known Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    It's what happens when u sack a bunch of key personnel, Coaches, CEO, players, trainers, others. Is it any wonder this is our worst year in a decade. Thanks Zorba.
     
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  7. weev

    weev Well-Known Member

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    At least Zorba has a better job so it's not all bad.
     
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  8. Ranger

    Ranger Armchair Expert

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    Which Manly-bred coach currently in our ranks would you replace him with?

    Luke Williamson
    Chad Randall
    Brett/Scott Fulton
    John Hopoate

    Hasler is under contract and Toovey is not an option for the current owners, so they are both out of the picture.
     
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  9. Mark from Brisbane

    Mark from Brisbane Living the dream Premium Member

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    Ivan Cleary has at least played for us, he'd be one as an option BUT I bet McFadden gets sacked at the Warriors and he'll go back there......maybe!!
     
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  10. Ranger

    Ranger Armchair Expert

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    Reading the Play had him going to the Dragons to replace McGregor.

    Don't forget that Cleary missed the finals in 3 of his 4 years as Penrith coach. Sure he played for Manly but I don't think he is the answer.
     
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  11. double hoops

    double hoops Well-Known Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Don't know if he's interested. But Jason King is someone I'd like to see coaching in our lower ranks now. Not the worlds best footballer, and they often make the best coaches, but he's been around the game, but non the less a very intelligent man. Those book and business smarts of his combined with his knowledge of the game see him well placed to continue our former captains being our coaches.
     
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  12. madmax

    madmax Well-Known Member

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    Manly finished 9th on 26 points in 2015.............
     
  13. madmax

    madmax Well-Known Member

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    Get rid of Cartwright as assistant & replace him with either Cliffy or Beaver!!!
     
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  14. Brissie Kid

    Brissie Kid Well-Known Member

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    Manly will never be the same again under this NRL.

    1. The NRL fixed the draw so that Manly must now play every Sydney club away every season. Was easier to get 2 points up for win facing Cows or Warriors away than Shark Park, Kogarah, Parra Stadium, Penrith, Dogs, Souths, Roosters, Leichardt Oval. But now Manly get most of our away games against Sydney teams at their fortresses which means right from the start we 6 or 8 points worse off on the points table - enough to miss the top 8 finals.
    2. The NRL salary cap ensures that success is followed by failure.

    The only good news will be if we avoid the spoon each year.

    Let Manly be Manly. Get rid of the cap & let our 1970s & 80s glamour club come back. Would the Liverpool FC or Manchester be any good under a cap? The NRL has ruined Manly's brand.
     
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  15. andyvb

    andyvb Active Member

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    Lewis brown is the only player to play ever game this year. We have been injury riddle, if we stayed fit we would be in the 8. Plus add the few games we lost due to goal kicking
     
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  16. Manly To Win!

    Manly To Win! Well-Known Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    If we can actually get our best 17 on the field we should be a lot better. Having a proper 5/8th next season will also help.
     
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  17. Terry Zarsoff

    Terry Zarsoff Well-Known Member

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    They were the Manly-Warringah Sea Eagles by 2003. However yes, that was a pretty poor season, lightened only by the resignation of the likes of Blunty and Magilla and the appointment of Des for the 2004 season.
     
  18. lsz

    lsz Well-Known Member Staff Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Considering the overnight epl scores maybe there is a better example than Liverpool
     
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  19. eagleron

    eagleron Well-Known Member

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    I'd be looking at Cleary
     
  20. mickqld

    mickqld Sack Greenslime 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    If, like the top 4 teams, we played nearly all the season with a mostly fit lineup like this.
    1. B Stewart
    2. J Taufua
    3. D Walker
    4. S Matai
    5. T Trbojevic
    6. J Lyon
    7. D Cherry-Evans
    8. D Lussick
    9. A Korosai or M Parcell
    10. N Myles
    11. M Taupau
    12. J Buhrer
    13. J Trbojevic

    14. S Vave
    15. A Fonua- Blake
    16. J Starling
    17. L Brown

    Do we still think we wouldn't be in the 8.
    I'd bet we'd be sitting in 6th with our form getting better and better while teams like Donkeys Cows Gummies are struggling.
     
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