Girdler makes a great point in the chat with the fact that with no collective bargaining agreement in place past 2017 as yet, negotiations would be a guessing game. You can listen to it here. http://www.triplem.com.au/sydney/sport/nrl/news/2016/9/manly-sea-eagles-trbojevic-contract-bungle/ It's been a shaky start to contract negotiations between the Trbojevic brothers and Manly, with early discussions leaving a lot to be desired for the big-name players. According to Triple M and the Australian's Brent Read, Manly appear to have offered a conservative deal, largely to the unsettled salary cap spending amounts for 2018. Tom Trbojevic and his brother Jake are off-contract at the end of next year. "Things haven't gone as smoothly as they hoped," Ready said. "In the initial talks, there's a fair way apart between the parties, what the Trbojevic management expected and what's been offered.