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The Untouchable Bob Fulton

Discussion in 'Rugby League Forum' started by Loaded dog, Jun 30, 2016.

  1. Loaded dog

    Loaded dog flaccid Member

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    • HappilyManly

      HappilyManly MWTS Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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      How does a selector, who is running at a 9 per cent success rate, maintain his role for 11 straight years?

      In any other sport, a selector who has won one series out of the last 11 would simply be shown the door. Told ‘thanks but no thanks’. But this is rugby league immortal Bob Fulton. The untouchable Bob Fulton. And by being untouchable, Fulton simply goes under the radar.

      The problem with having a sole selector is once he is locked on an idea, and believes he is right, it’s very hard to change his mind. What was Bob Fulton’s idea? It was Paul Gallen.

      In June of 2014 Fulton suggested Paul Gallen was a future immortal.

      “We talk about Darren Lockyer, Greg Inglis, Cameron Smith, Johnathan Thurston and Billy Slater as future Immortals, which is fair enough too,” Fulton said.

      “It’s just that I’d include Paul Gallen in that company too. He’s the best NSW Origin forward I’ve seen”.

      After losing the final match of the 2015 series 52-6, it was time for fresh ideas. Time to move Bob Fulton and Paul Gallen on. You can’t get a clearer indication that a 46-point hiding in an Origin decider.

      However, if Bozo remained and with an inflated opinion of Paul Gallen, the captaincy wasn’t ever in threat of changing. So with a selector with a success rate of 10 per cent selecting a captain with a success rate of 20 per cent, is there any real surprise that NSW lost yet again?

      They are lucky their success rates can’t drop much lower. Now Fulton sits at 9 per cent and Gallen 17 per cent.

      NSW needed fresh ideas. They needed a captains talk, that when they heard it, wasn’t the same one they’ve heard for the last five years that often ended in a loss. They needed something else.

      However, the got the same speech, and the same result.

      And Bob Fulton remains as untouchable as ever.
       
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      • Loobs

        Loobs I am not really Scott Penn Premium Member

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        He's not a selector. He's a consultant. Daley said that the other week on 360...
         
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        • The Who

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          I wonder how his success rate compares to that of Willow?
           
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          • TerryRandall

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            The problem is not Gallen (or for that matter Bozo). The problem is we haven't had a dominant play-maker since Joey retired, whilst the in-breds have had "future immortals" in key play-making roles for a decade (half, 5/8 and hooker). I actually think Gallen has been a great player, the problem is that he has filled the vacuum created by our dearth of talent elsewhere, to the teams detriment. The NSW teams that are selected are usually close to the best we have available (notwithstanding there is always debate at the margins). If we had a few more "future immortals" this side of the border, Bozo would be a genius.
             
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            • fLIP

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              Lets be completely honest. It doesnt matter what team gets selected the last decade, NSW will always be up against it.

              QLD is experiencing a period of talent we may never see again. A generation of players that include Lockyer, Smith, Thurston, Slater, Cronk, Inglis, Parker ect.

              It doesnt matter who you pick. Its a once in a hundred year team.
               
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              • tookey

                tookey Well-Known Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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                Willo makes Fulton look like jack Gibson

                And his lack of success has now transferred back to Manly

                He must also have willo's photo collection
                 
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                • Budgewoi Eagle

                  Budgewoi Eagle In for the long haul. Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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                  Surely the definition of an immortal is one who cannot be killed off?
                  We gotta get rid of this immortal ****!
                   
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                  • Clay

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                    Daley said last year that NSW doesn't have selectors and the coach solely picks the team.

                    He said he may ask people for opinions but at the end of the day the decision rests with him.

                    What is Bobs offical role with NSWRL?
                     
                  • mosto

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                    Don't know how much credence I give to a blog by some keyboard warrior who calls themselves 'Beardan', particularly seeing how prickly they get in the comments when their opinion is challenged. Each to their own though.
                     
                  • Frogz

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                    Only the goat will know that.
                     
                  • Loaded dog

                    Loaded dog flaccid Member

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                    Who selects the selector?
                     
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                    • Enigma

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                      I have posed the query before without a real answer. To the critics of the coaches and selectors over the last ten years and given the unfair advantage of hindsight , who would you select as half and five eight over this period who would have given us a steady combo to win as many as we lose, with Bellamy as coach. Fulton is a born winner and the idea that he is out of touch is a legitimate question, I believe he is not. NSW seem to have had loads of players over this period who are good players but are nowhere near as good as QLD players. Sometimes there is no answer to a problem other than to bide your time and do your best which is what is happening. The good news is that I reckon the dominance is over. The way the new players in excelled shows me a massive turning point. The new brigade will have the massive advantage of not being scarred by the defeats and more importantly against a team which will decline soon. Cleary will be the half next year and a new era begins. ( Left my defences a bit open but what the heck)
                       
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                      • pjayz

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                        There haven't been official selectors since Ricky Stuart was coaching. They did a review and report a few years back and they decided to get rid of selectors and retain a selection advisor - Bob Fulton. Officially, the coach has final say on all selections and Bozo is 'in the room' so to speak to offer his opinion.

                        The question is whether this is actually how it plays out, or whether Bozo has more sway than suggested.
                         
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                        • TerryRandall

                          TerryRandall Well-Known Member

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                          And who selected them?
                           
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                          • Loaded dog

                            Loaded dog flaccid Member

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                            not me...
                             
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                            • DYEagle

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                              It's quite simple...

                              QLD have had the better players.
                               
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                              • XV-1

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                                There has not been a selection panel since 2010.
                                Fulton has been an advisor only.

                                The last 6 years rests soley with the coach and of course as Gus says the selfish Paul Gallen:D
                                 
                              • Frogz

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                                Sounds like the manly team selection room a bit also.
                                 
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                                • Sea Eagle 4 Life

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                                  You should all show some respect for the 3 time premiership winning player & 2 time premiership winning coach of our great club!
                                   
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