The best Teams Compete every play

maxta

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The best teams have these sensational players who light up the field - Papenhasen, Munster, Tedesco, Mitchell, Cleary ect, but the most important reason these blokes are are allowed to play like stars, is the best teams have the competitive natures built into the teams...that Will to Win, fighting for every inch and advantage in both attack and defence.
Funny thing is, it's many of the unheralded players in their respective teams who bust their guts week in, week out in EVERY play....attack and defence who unlock the gates for the stars to shine.
That's what allows the stars to run amok and I can honestly say I have seen the best like Johns , Lockyer, THurston, yes even Cliffy look crap, in games the lessor lights arn't willing to cop some bruises and get into the dogfight for a bone....if the team is not willing to compete first and foremost, even the best will look ordinary.
These competitive teams will try win every contact physically in defence and make every play personal....also the energy levels grow contagiously to team mates and it will often look like these sides have more players on the field, even in support pushing up around the ball and extra's involved in tackles, yet are still to feet before the bloke with the ball.
This sums up Manly more so than any tactical issues and unless there is a willingness to roll up the sleeves and compete, these other attacking or defensive patterns will not register, as the effort is the horse and the skills/tactics are the cart that follow.
Watching Manly for many years I can honestly say, I have walked away from losses not happy, but proud if a gritty/gutsy performance with no white flag and an A for effort.
What I really find tough to watch is a Manly team getting out enthused, quiet as field mice, Bashed in the middle and the ugly scoreboard just ices the cake.
Give us a competitive side and we will see competitive results including more wins that losses, playing pretty won't get Manly out of this hole, need to compete first and win back that positive energy across the playing group by earning it.
 
Prior to last game I stated that I didn’t think we’d win , not against that star studded dude but I thought we might be reasonably happy that they’d had a go.

Prior to this game I’m still hoping to see that but I’m far less enthusiastic.

With the same team , verses the Bunnies who will be gagging for a win , I’m probably going to watch the game but if we are 24-0 at 20 minutes it’s “ hello Netflix “.
 
Maxta, that’s close to spot on, our 1% efforts are shameful, the teams fitness levels and attitudes seem way off the money, to read elsewhere that Des thinks the competition properly starts after round 8 is ridiculous, thats 16 points away, ask if the storm, the chocks, the panthers, the bunnies and or any other coach and their team think that way, that is old school, you must be fit and willing from round one, we just look so far off the money when assessing ourselves against those top tier teams, you have to be trying to compete with what they are doing, as you said you need to be completing in every play every aspect of the game, we have too many players who either don’t get this or are unwilling. It’s easy to see what separates a willing player from those just making up the numbers, sadly we have a lot just making up the numbers at the moment, kick them up the backside, get them fit, get them to compete and hopefully watch the turn around, but as with the theme in many other threads, this must first be acknowledged and secondly change introduced to make a difference, sadly 2 aspects that Des cant seem to get a handle on.
 
The best teams have these sensational players who light up the field - Papenhasen, Munster, Tedesco, Mitchell, Cleary ect, but the most important reason these blokes are are allowed to play like stars, is the best teams have the competitive natures built into the teams...that Will to Win, fighting for every inch and advantage in both attack and defence.
Funny thing is, it's many of the unheralded players in their respective teams who bust their guts week in, week out in EVERY play....attack and defence who unlock the gates for the stars to shine.
That's what allows the stars to run amok and I can honestly say I have seen the best like Johns , Lockyer, THurston, yes even Cliffy look crap, in games the lessor lights arn't willing to cop some bruises and get into the dogfight for a bone....if the team is not willing to compete first and foremost, even the best will look ordinary.
These competitive teams will try win every contact physically in defence and make every play personal....also the energy levels grow contagiously to team mates and it will often look like these sides have more players on the field, even in support pushing up around the ball and extra's involved in tackles, yet are still to feet before the bloke with the ball.
This sums up Manly more so than any tactical issues and unless there is a willingness to roll up the sleeves and compete, these other attacking or defensive patterns will not register, as the effort is the horse and the skills/tactics are the cart that follow.
Watching Manly for many years I can honestly say, I have walked away from losses not happy, but proud if a gritty/gutsy performance with no white flag and an A for effort.
What I really find tough to watch is a Manly team getting out enthused, quiet as field mice, Bashed in the middle and the ugly scoreboard just ices the cake.
Give us a competitive side and we will see competitive results including more wins that losses, playing pretty won't get Manly out of this hole, need to compete first and win back that positive energy across the playing group by earning it.

Agree Maxie ... 100% ... our problems are much deeper than defensive structures and team selections ... attitude and commitment can be turned around .. but it starts with the coach and senior players ...
 
Exactly it's about putting your body on the line willing to take the hits not just putting your arm out
The players said they were hurting I wonder how many were hurting physically not emotionally
 
Agree Maxie ... 100% ... our problems are much deeper than defensive structures and team selections ... attitude and commitment can be turned around .. but it starts with the coach and senior players ...

Coach and “ inspirational senior players “!

Ah, do we actually have any of those ???

Not one even close to Ben Kennedy amongst them.
 
This weekend's efforts will say much about each player as an individual, and how those individuals want the team to win. Much more so than most weekends. It may be career-defining for many.
 
Finally got it figured. We’re about to sell our business and have to put in a non compete clause.
Our CEO is just out of the business world. Is it possible that he got so used to non compete clauses in his world that he put those into player contracts and the players took it quite literally?
Thank you very much. I’m here til Thursday. Try the beef.
 
What I really find tough to watch is a Manly team getting out enthused, quiet as field mice, Bashed in the middle and the ugly scoreboard just ices the cake.
along with a Manly team behind the goalpost, after yet another try scored against them, and a captain treading softly softly, not instilling any passion or pride and the players seemingly not listening one iota. I want to see some ranting/yelling/arm-waving etc. How we need a Ben Kennedy clone!
 
along with a Manly team behind the goalpost, after yet another try scored against them, and a captain treading softly softly, not instilling any passion or pride and the players seemingly not listening one iota. I want to see some ranting/yelling/arm-waving etc. How we need a Ben Kennedy clone!
We should ask Ben to come back into the fold and be a trainer - get him on the field barking orders when running the water. Unfortunately he had a bit of a falling out with the club - maybe something Des could mend?
 
Prior to last game I stated that I didn’t think we’d win , not against that star studded dude but I thought we might be reasonably happy that they’d had a go.

Prior to this game I’m still hoping to see that but I’m far less enthusiastic.

With the same team , verses the Bunnies who will be gagging for a win , I’m probably going to watch the game but if we are 24-0 at 20 minutes it’s “ hello Netflix “.
Or in my case Hello Swannies!
 

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