The Ben Hunt "Rest"

[maxta]

I can understand a player being rested coming into finals, especially if the team has earned a good position leading into the finals and more so if a forward with massive work rate or veteran type player.
This Ben Hunt situation seemed strange considering he has hardly set the world on fire, even allowing the fact some big name forwards have been out.
But the bloke commands $50,000 a game and this is the time he needed to stand up most...
Also the fact Illawarra are in dire straights and need every win possible....
The resting of Tom T after SOO had me a little disappointed at the time, but that was a few days after the game and he has had trouble recently with the hammy which enhances the chances of it reoccuring and Tom was not happy with the idea of being out, but left it to his training staff at the time -

Manly's medical staff held the star fullback out of their post-Origin loss to the Rabbitohs to take every possible precaution with his hamstring, despite an initial protest from the 22-year-old.
"Personally, I didn’t want to rest but we have a lot of people here who are a lot smarter than me and they thought that was the best idea," he said.

What's the opinion of resting players....personally reckon it can be useful and deserved, but feel the Hunt Rest was a poor option unless he is carrying more of an injury than letting on, or worse still, the comradery within their footy club is dwindling to new lows...whats the thoughts ??

 

[Loobs]

I can understand a player being rested coming into finals, especially if the team has earned a good position leading into the finals and more so if a forward with massive work rate or veteran type player.
This Ben Hunt situation seemed strange considering he has hardly set the world on fire, even allowing the fact some big name forwards have been out.
But the bloke commands $50,000 a game and this is the time he needed to stand up most...
Also the fact Illawarra are in dire straights and need every win possible....
The resting of Tom T after SOO had me a little disappointed at the time, but that was a few days after the game and he has had trouble recently with the hammy which enhances the chances of it reoccuring and Tom was not happy with the idea of being out, but left it to his training staff at the time -

Manly's medical staff held the star fullback out of their post-Origin loss to the Rabbitohs to take every possible precaution with his hamstring, despite an initial protest from the 22-year-old.
"Personally, I didn’t want to rest but we have a lot of people here who are a lot smarter than me and they thought that was the best idea," he said.

What's the opinion of resting players....personally reckon it can be useful and deserved, but feel the Hunt Rest was a poor option unless he is carrying more of an injury than letting on, or worse still, the comradery within their footy club is dwindling to new lows...whats the thoughts ??

Hey Kenty haha

I agree with the angry mans rant on 360 last night. Hunt shouldn't be rested just because he's "tired". That's weak as piss. Tommy T was rested because of his recent injuries. They didn't want to overload him.

Can you imagine DCE going to Desmond and saying give me the week off because I'm tired..?

 

[maxta]

Hey Kenty haha

I agree with the angry mans rant on 360 last night. Hunt shouldn't be rested just because he's "tired". That's weak as piss. Tommy T was rested because of his recent injuries. They didn't want to overload him.

Can you imagine DCE going to Desmond and saying give me the week off because I'm tired..?

Thought it was strange to sit out at the time, but Kent gave him both barrels and I reckon he deserves it, along with the Coach and whoever else backed it

 

[HappilyManly]

If Turbo as a centre earned a rest, then the hooker who tackled for 240 minutes certainly does

Clubs can't ignore the fact that players are just human after all

The money aspect is besides the point as Hunt was offered the $$$, he didn't hold a gun to anyone's head 😎

Ash Taylor, GI and Darius all were given head space when they wanted it. Hunt deserves the same leniency

 

[BOZO]

I can understand a player being rested coming into finals, especially if the team has earned a good position leading into the finals and more so if a forward with massive work rate or veteran type player.
This Ben Hunt situation seemed strange considering he has hardly set the world on fire, even allowing the fact some big name forwards have been out.
But the bloke commands $50,000 a game and this is the time he needed to stand up most...
Also the fact Illawarra are in dire straights and need every win possible....
The resting of Tom T after SOO had me a little disappointed at the time, but that was a few days after the game and he has had trouble recently with the hammy which enhances the chances of it reoccuring and Tom was not happy with the idea of being out, but left it to his training staff at the time -

Manly's medical staff held the star fullback out of their post-Origin loss to the Rabbitohs to take every possible precaution with his hamstring, despite an initial protest from the 22-year-old.
"Personally, I didn’t want to rest but we have a lot of people here who are a lot smarter than me and they thought that was the best idea," he said.

What's the opinion of resting players....personally reckon it can be useful and deserved, but feel the Hunt Rest was a poor option unless he is carrying more of an injury than letting on, or worse still, the comradery within their footy club is dwindling to new lows...whats the thoughts ??

You seem to have summed it all up in your post sexy Maxy . My only other thoughts are a common sense approach to doing things and I think Mary has lost his marbles and as a result could also lose his job

 

[wombatgc]

Mentioned this earlier in another thread. If Kent’s to be believed (and that’s a big IF) he(Hunt) has asked for the week off because he wants a rest. Can you just imagine sitting in your civvies in the dressing room and having James Graham just stearin at you. If the med staff ruled him out then fair enough. I still don’t buy all of it. I wouldn’t be surprised to see an Ash Taylor situation here.

 

[wombatgc]

If Turbo as a centre earned a rest, then the hooker who tackled for 240 minutes certainly does

Clubs can't ignore the fact that players are just human after all

The money aspect is besides the point as Hunt was offered the $$$, he didn't hold a gun to anyone's head 😎

Ash Taylor, GI and Darius all were given head space when they wanted it. Hunt deserves the same leniency

Beat me to it.

 

[Kiwi Eagle]

If Turbo as a centre earned a rest, then the hooker who tackled for 240 minutes certainly does

Clubs can't ignore the fact that players are just human after all

The money aspect is besides the point as Hunt was offered the $$$, he didn't hold a gun to anyone's head 😎

Ash Taylor, GI and Darius all were given head space when they wanted it. Hunt deserves the same leniency

Spot on

He is a week to week halfback averaging probably around 20 tackle attempts a game to playing hooker in the biggest arena averaging near 60 attempts, is a huge difference in workload

Clubs have been resting players for years in various situations and I’d struggle to believe this is the first case it has been with a club in this situation, but the media are all over it

As an aside there is an interesting situation over in the Super League with resting players, St Helens are on fire and nailing everybody over there, but in their 2 games v London, Holbrook has rested half his side, London have won both and are tied in the relegation spot with Leeds and Hull, and those clubs are blowing up big time about it

 

[HappilyManly]

Beat me to it.

Sadly Hunt is like Chez in that he is meant to be at 100% in every game and take the sustained Media attacks whenever they feel the need for another personal attack

 

[urulion]

I suppose there will always be arguments for and against regarding this topic, as every individual is different and the health requirements of a person needs to be assessed individually. In saying that, I do need to point out something that I have mentioned to several people for a long period of time. We are the most fortunate club in the NRL because we have a gun player that I believe is the best in Turbo. However, there is a player that we have, that makes it all possible and does not receive many headlines and that is his brother JAKE.

This bloke leaves his lungs and every other organ on the field and tackles from start to finish. JAKE never asks for sick leave and Turbo shines with the rest of the sea eagles because the unnoticed JAKE tightens up the middle and breaks his back to make it all possible. Yes it is a team effort and they all play their hearts out, but it becomes very apparent that when JAKE is missing we have major problems up the middle and seem on the back foot. I understand we are unable to compare JAKE to Hunt, as they are separate individuals with separate needs. But boy, as a Manly fanatic, I will always admire what JAKE does for our team and never take it for granted, he backs up no excuses and still plays like a machine regardless how many times he must back up.

 

[HappilyManly]

If I were a Media target like Hunt and Chez I'd just take out a Koala and have a break during my suspension

Win-Win 😀

 

[HappilyManly]

I suppose there will always be arguments for and against regarding this topic, as every individual is different and the health requirements of a person needs to be assessed individually. In saying that, I do need to point out something that I have mentioned to several people for a long period of time. We are the most fortunate club in the NRL because we have a gun player that I believe is the best in Turbo. However, there is a player that we have, that makes it all possible and does not receive many headlines and that is his brother JAKE.

This bloke leaves his lungs and every other organ on the field and tackles from start to finish. JAKE never asks for sick leave and Turbo shines with the rest of the sea eagles because the unnoticed JAKE tightens up the middle and breaks his back to make it all possible. Yes it is a team effort and they all play their hearts out, but it becomes very apparent that when JAKE is missing we have major problems up the middle and seem on the back foot. I understand we are unable to compare JAKE to Hunt, as they are separate individuals with separate needs. But boy, as a Manly fanatic, I will always admire what JAKE does for our team and never take it for granted, he backs up no excuses and still plays like a machine regardless how many times he must back up.

Jake is not a playmaker therefore any bad results of his Team are never laid at his feet.

 

[Rackets]

Hunt is overrated. Definitely not a hooker and too inconsistent as a half.
That's just my opinion.

 

[Cliffymagic]

One thing that peeved me abit on that 360 show the other night with kent and the jorno. They harped on about how good the roosters are with thier signings. Lookin to the future and what not. They mentioned some clubs spend too much on a few players ala 3 , 1 million dollar players. Then dont have back up. Did they not relise the roosters also brought tedesco. Cronk and crighton for a mill each.....

 

[globaleagle]

One thing that peeved me abit on that 360 show the other night with kent and the jorno. They harped on about how good the roosters are with thier signings. Lookin to the future and what not. They mentioned some clubs spend too much on a few players ala 3 , 1 million dollar players. Then dont have back up. Did they not relise the roosters also brought tedesco. Cronk and crighton for a mill each.....

A not so sly did at Manly's big three, after the same monkey typists go on for years about how amazing the storms big three were.

It's hard to think of another non political collection of such ****ing idiots other than these guys.

 

[castle eagle]

Jake is not a playmaker therefore any bad results of his Team are never laid at his feet.

not officially a playmaker but id say he had more touches of the ball in origin 3 than either of his halves

 

[Tragic Eagle]

The Dragons lack of success is not just as a result of Hunt having one week off. The press making a big thing out of nothing. Melbourne Storm rested plenty so are you only allowed to rest players if you are on top and winning?

 

[HappilyManly]

not officially a playmaker but id say he had more touches of the ball in origin 3 than either of his halves

Point was that the Media don't attack other positions after a loss like they do with half backs 😎

 

[maxta]

If Turbo as a centre earned a rest, then the hooker who tackled for 240 minutes certainly does

Clubs can't ignore the fact that players are just human after all

The money aspect is besides the point as Hunt was offered the $$$, he didn't hold a gun to anyone's head 😎

Ash Taylor, GI and Darius all were given head space when they wanted it. Hunt deserves the same leniency

Some solid points HM....I still really feel Turbo was partly rested due to his previous injury, which could easily reoccur if not managed.
I do feel however, the money is relevant as it makes him a marquee player that others look up to, enabling the side to lift and if it was a Must win crunch game for Manly, I reckon the Manly staff would have had him out there.
Also as a halfback who is meant to control a game, the importance lifts, however the 2 most influential players in the NRL are 2 freak fullbacks in Turbo and Tedesco, along with Smith which is rare.
On the mental aspect, its a tough 1 as there are mental issues which 100% would need consideration and time out, but a major effect with some of the players recently have been down to lifestyle choices including excessive substances (alcohol/drugs/poor diet) and a massive issue is gambling.
I certainly don't judge either, but as an NRL player on Massive coin, it doesn't seem fair to miss game time imo based on poor choices, yet has contributed big time in recent years.
If anyone here has a big night on the drink they are expected to back up for work and tbh, I think they would.

 

[MadMarcus]

I’m sure Tooves would’ve asked for a rest when he was playing hooker in rep games, and Bozo would’ve surely approved it.