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The Ageing Roster

Discussion in 'Rugby League Forum' started by Budgewoi Eagle, Mar 9, 2014.

  1. Budgewoi Eagle

    Budgewoi Eagle In for the long haul. Premium Member 2017 Tipping Competitor 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    It's been said about us for years and I've never really thought it would affect us but last night I felt we do have an ageing roster which may mean a lean few seasons. The young up and comers are a few years off and I think some of our heroes of many years may be a little short in the legs. In the past I think the older heads were great at bringing the fresh talent through but I have a concern that DCE wants leadership but is more of the My Brand generation and not the Good of The Team lot. Holding my breath and hoping I'm wrong.
     
  2. Ceagle

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    It's only been one game ffs, we looked as good as ever in that 1st half. 2nd half we lost Snake and that shifted our backline around and we had no ball at all. Stop overreacting
     
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    • Oliver

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      Nah mate we just suck without Snake running the attack. I wonder how much Brett add's onto DCE's value?
       
    • Chip and Chase

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      Short term the ones of concern are King, both Stewarts (injury moreso for Snake than age) and Killer. I think we can get 2-3 years out of everyone else, with Matai and Choc being 50-50 in that department.

      So that should be a reasonable time frame for succession planning. We've got 2 young halves and some good young forwards coming through. Hopefully fullback is covered by Morrisey or Tom T if we can get a couple more out of Snake.

      Where we might be short is in the centres, I don't hear much about young centres coming through. We let Gagan go this year. Maybe Horhay might be a possibility there long term, he has the similar style to Stevie and can break the line. Would need work on defence though. We might have to recruit in that department. Wingers are a dime a dozen these days, so easy to cover that.
       
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      • Budgewoi Eagle

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        And we ran out of juice in the second half despite little defence in the first.
         
      • Eagle Rock

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        There are good centers and wingers coming through, but Manly would rather buy old players than look after their Juniors and put anyone out on the wing instead of a Specialised Winger and you wonder why their juniors don't hang around and go to other clubs.
         
      • BOZO

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        Which " great" young player that we did not look after leave us ?
         
      • Eagle Rock

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        Whether their great or not they are talented Juniors who have gone to other clubs who have started with manly from Harold Matts right through, these are the ones I can think of at the top of my head ... Will Hopoate, Michael Oldfield, Luke Vescio, Darcy Lussick, Joey Lussick ( halfback ), Josh Drinkwater, Blake Harrison, Daniel Harrison, Sam Short ( Halfback )
         
      • Chip and Chase

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        WE gave young Hoppa a pretty fair go. So good of a go in fact that other clubs wanted to throw a reported $700K + a season at him. No wonder we let him go.

        All the others you mentioned haven't offered anything over those that we chose to retain in those spots, well not yet anyway. I think we made the right decision to prioritise DCE over Drinkwater and Lussick. I would say that only JWH has gone on to become a decent player, one we would still like to have. Once again, it was probably $$$ taht saw him leave. That's the whole point of a salary cap, you can't hang onto every junior you think might amount to something, especially for a club like Manly who don't have massive funds to play with.

        I think our retention policy for juniors has been pretty good.
         
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        • BOZO

          BOZO Well-Known Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

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          I agree with Chippy . Our retention policy is very good . Any young player with ability is recognised and given an opportunity
           
        • master blaster

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          with JWH C and C,it was the dollars from memory,the rorters were paying overs for him,big dollars,Manly couldnt match it
           
        • Fluffy

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          We have bought in Tony Santini for centre position. He was 18th man yesterday and former Panthers U20 captain. Looked good in the trials.
           
        • Eagle Rock

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          They might be given an opportunity to begin with but they don't want to pay the $$$$ to keep them.
           
        • castle eagle

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          yet overall we had only 38% of possession(smh).
          no surprise the players were fatigued by the end of the game.
           
        • BOZO

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          We have a salary cap to deal with so we cant keep everyone but we keep more than most clubs do.
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          Will Hoppa was offered 800 k a season which is ridicules ? Darcy was paid overs at the eels and he won a wooden spoon. Oldfield and Drinkwater could not get a start in the NRL so they went over seas to retire . Then we have Joey Lussick , the Harrisons and Sam Short . Say no more !!!
           
        • Eagle Rock

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          Sam Short and Joey Lussick are much better than the Junior Halves we have at present. Manly have bought around 7 hookers in Holden Cup / NSW Cup but we have no decent halves coming through, which is stupid.
           
        • BOZO

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          We have the best halves in the comp for the next decade so we cant blame these young halves for accepting more $ to try their luck elsewhere . Makes sense to me
           
        • Eagle Rock

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          How do you know that ? As they are both signed only until 2015. If they go, there is no one else.
           
        • BOZO

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          We are very confident of keeping them . Have faith feathered fiend :)
           
        • double hoops

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          It's not panic stations. When stars get injured just don't throw em back in as soon as is possible. Give some young backs a few games in a row to develop. Give the old legs a bit longer to recover.
           

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