Sirro / lane

[jbb/james]

with lane stepping up to potentially be a ball player. Of course he will eventually need support to pass too for this to be reallly effective. But with him developing do we really need siro moving forward. Lanes passes seem to be a bit safer and he is playing well
Cap space is tight, can we really afford double ups in this environment, espcially as it seems we need to spend big on another half to compete

 

[madmax]

We need both! Can't believe people want to get rid of Sironen!

 

[40 years an eagle]

We need both! Can't believe people want to get rid of Sironen!

Not saying that I totally agree with it but I can see why mate. He has spent more time injured than playing for the last 3 seasons, AND it effectively more than doubles what he costs per game.

 

[HK_Eagle]

Not saying that I totally agree with it but I can see why mate. He has spent more time injured than playing for the last 3 seasons, AND it effectively more than doubles what he costs per game.

Add on top of that he has yet to actually string together any consistency. Yes, there have been flashes of great stuff, but there has been some pretty ordinary footy in between from Siro too. I mentioned before that I think people tend to elevate this guy's ability beyond reality, which is understandable given the poor position we are currently in and the desperation to turn it around.

 

[Chip and Chase]

From all reports Siro has a contract extension sitting there waiting for the NRL to sort out our salary cap drama. So it looks like the club has already made it's decision

 

[jbb/james]

We need both! Can't believe people want to get rid of Sironen!

Needs v wants. Im not saying sirro isnt important but with cherry needing someone highly paid to do his job next to him , can we support 4 established backrowers in the squad. Not want , afford.

To keep sirro, and upgrade lane which we should , we should we have to spend less elswhere, possibly needing to offload walker or tapau.

Remember we are going nowhere without spending on the halves. It would be great to keep sirro, its not about his ability but in unearthing lane i think we could . And i think id prefer lane than sirro anyway.

You cant keep em all and if sirros contract hasnt been eyeballed and had the intoddgrity unit finalise it it may help 2018

Its just a discussion

 

[Mal Cochrane]

we have 2 very good frontrowers in AFB and Marty, and a gun lock in jake, however we are missing the gun 2nd rower that is highly involved and constant ability to break the line.

Sirro, Lane, Thompson & Winterstein.

Sirro has a few great games, however has low metres & can often go unnoticed

lane has improved this year and looks most likely to offer something in attack, still not sold on him and does have issues in defence.

Thompson is our hard man, not one to break the line but does the 1% for us and strong in defence

Winterstein, i don;t know, it seems either he is not quite 1st grade or we are just not utilising him properly. Lows metres but good on defence.

Out of the 4, i would probably take thompson. Every team needs that no frills player who just gets the job done. Of the remainder only one can take a bench spot, choose who you will, but i feel we really need to get a top line 2nd rower on our books.

This and a 5/8, and blood some promising youngsters coming through like Wright and Anderson, and possibly a few more who show promise.

For our forward pack, it really is the AFB/Marty/Jake show, and hope for a moment of good stuff from the rest.

 

[Nordburg]

We need both! Can't believe people want to get rid of Sironen!

Because he’s out more than he’s in.He was the same at the Tigers

 

[Nordburg]

we have 2 very good frontrowers in AFB and Marty, and a gun lock in jake, however we are missing the gun 2nd rower that is highly involved and constant ability to break the line.

Sirro, Lane, Thompson & Winterstein.

Sirro has a few great games, however has low metres & can often go unnoticed

lane has improved this year and looks most likely to offer something in attack, still not sold on him and does have issues in defence.

Thompson is our hard man, not one to break the line but does the 1% for us and strong in defence

Winterstein, i don;t know, it seems either he is not quite 1st grade or we are just not utilising him properly. Lows metres but good on defence.

Out of the 4, i would probably take thompson. Every team needs that no frills player who just gets the job done. Of the remainder only one can take a bench spot, choose who you will, but i feel we really need to get a top line 2nd rower on our books.

This and a 5/8, and blood some promising youngsters coming through like Wright and Anderson, and possibly a few more who show promise.

For our forward pack, it really is the AFB/Marty/Jake show, and hope for a moment of good stuff from the rest.

Back row is a major issue.People are getting excited about Lane because he looks ok amongst a very poor bunch.He doesn’t hurt anyone in defence,just like all the second Rowers at the club.

 

[Midnight Rambler]

Siro & Winterstein i’d Punt in seconds...neither can regularly crack the 100 mtr mark. Thompson, whilst having a high work rate, was a waste of money. Tanginoa & Lane I’d definitely keep.

 

[Sillybus]

Lane is terrible. Get rid of him and buy someone better. Can't believe the love fest this site has for him. The blokes 7 foot and runs softer than my 3 year old nephew at a brick wall. And don't get me started on his lazy no effort defense. If kelepi and sirro were uninjured he wouldn't even get a look in.

 

[Sue]

Yep. Our backrowers are pretty similar standard across the board with Tanginoa hsving most upside. Until Api this week it’s basically been our backrowers getting injured. Except Walker all our top players havie been playing almost every week.

With Thommo playing every game we have been changing players of similar standard as the other backrower and bench. Our good props haven’t missed a game.The injury stuff up to this week was way overrated. Many other teams have more injuries to key spine players .

Losing Api with unbelievably no specialist backup in the top 30 ( another coaching master stroke ) probably changes that and puts one hand on the spoon.

 

[highlandeagle]

Yep. Our backrowers are pretty similar standard across the board with Tanginoa hsving most upside. Until Api this week it’s basically been our backrowers getting injured. Except Walker all our top players havie been playing almost every week.

With Thommo playing every game we have been changing players of similar standard as the other backrower and bench. Our good props haven’t missed a game.The injury stuff up to this week was way overrated. Many other teams have more injuries to key spine players .

Losing Api with unbelievably no specialist backup in the top 30 ( another coaching master stroke ) probably changes that and puts one hand on the spoon.

You've nailed it. Injury crisis has been blown out of proportion to suite the poor Barrett narrative. Really hope the nrl doesn't give dispensation for hooker and Barrett is forced to pick Hastings. Its karma for his petulant manner and stupid bloody mindedness. SACK BARRETT NOW!!!!!!!

 

[malroon]

Needs v wants. Im not saying sirro isnt important but with cherry needing someone highly paid to do his job next to him , can we support 4 established backrowers in the squad. Not want , afford.

So you want us to spend another $10m to have someone hold DCE's hand..??

 

[Nordburg]

Tanginoa had a few good runs in the games he played but let’s no get too excited about him.He’s the type of player that’ll have more off games than on and the most damning issue is that he is a Parra reject

 

[HK_Eagle]

Tanginoa had a few good runs in the games he played but let’s no get too excited about him.He’s the type of player that’ll have more off games than on and the most damning issue is that he is a Parra reject

Much like the desperate throng getting over-excited about Sirro, like he's already some type of immortal... Desperation drives some interesting and hopeful narratives

 

[HoldenV8]

Back row is a major issue.People are getting excited about Lane because he looks ok amongst a very poor bunch.He doesn’t hurt anyone in defence,just like all the second Rowers at the club.

As much as Lane has improved this year, mostly because of one of Barrett's better moves as coach which was making Penny a bench front rower, I would love to see him get a bit meaner out there and put some sting not only in his runs, but his defence.

I've said it before and will say it again.....the guy is a monster. He's 6'6" (198 cm) and 115 kg. He's freaking huge and he has the skills and some pace to match. But he does need to get meaner out on the field and use his size and talent to best advantage.

Remember 20-30 years ago when guys like Spud Carroll, Mark Geyer, Ian Roberts, Paul Harragon and Paul Sironen were seen as giants as forwards? Lane is bigger. In fact, in terms of player height in the NRL only Melbourne's Nelson Asofa-Solomona who is 6'7" (201 cm) is bigger than our boy. They weigh the same (and Paseka rivals them at 6'6" (197) and 120 kg).

I have no problem with Manly wanting to extend his contract.

Siro on the other hand....he does have talent, the only question is that he seems injury prone. Although in saying that, he has been unlucky because its only been two injuries which have kept him out. The pec last year and his ACL this year. But as @Chip and Chase said above, there is a contract extension on the table for him that should be signed off on once this salary cap BS is done with.

Going forward (even though, Thommo is 29 and won't last forever).....Manly could well have one of the better back rows in the NRL with Thommo, Siro, Jake and Lane to chose from. And the beauty is that both Lane and Jake can easily slot into the front row

 

[Nordburg]

As much as Lane has improved this year, mostly because of one of Barrett's better moves as coach which was making Penny a bench front rower, I would love to see him get a bit meaner out there and put some sting not only in his runs, but his defence.

I've said it before and will say it again.....the guy is a monster. He's 6'6" (198 cm) and 115 kg. He's freaking huge and he has the skills and some pace to match. But he does need to get meaner out on the field and use his size and talent to best advantage.

Remember 20-30 years ago when guys like Spud Carroll, Mark Geyer, Ian Roberts, Paul Harragon and Paul Sironen were seen as giants as forwards? Lane is bigger. In fact, in terms of player height in the NRL only Melbourne's Nelson Asofa-Solomona who is 6'7" (201 cm) is bigger than our boy. They weigh the same (and Paseka rivals them at 6'6" (197) and 120 kg).

I have no problem with Manly wanting to extend his contract.

Siro on the other hand....he does have talent, the only question is that he seems injury prone. Although in saying that, he has been unlucky because its only been two injuries which have kept him out. The pec last year and his ACL this year. But as @Chip and Chase said above, there is a contract extension on the table for him that should be signed off on once this salary cap BS is done with.

Going forward (even though, Thommo is 29 and won't last forever).....Manly could well have one of the better back rows in the NRL with Thommo, Siro, Jake and Lane to chose from. And the beauty is that both Lane and Jake can easily slot into the front row

Sironen was injury prone at the Tigers too.Paseka is the one to hold on to.Runs with venom and defends with purpose.With nothing left to lose this season,I think Paseka needs to start a few games towards the end of the season to develop his game and get some experience because cameos off the bench doesn’t really prove anything and it creates laziness with some players

 

[bob dylan]

Sorry to say.

Siro gotta go.

 

[Tragic Eagle]

The back row is adequate however our half and five right have been inadequate all season. It’s like trying to run a car on two wheels. The puzzling thing is that the coach is a former five eight and we look like a side with no game plan or structure week in and week out. First things first. New coaching staff please!