Refs tip sheets

[SeaEagleRock8]

These should be made public.
To see a team in effect refereed in advance and penalised on suspicion of an infringement is distressing and infuriating for fans of the game.
These ref 'tip sheets' we hear about amount to another set of rules which no-one else can see.
They equate to a tendency argument - Player X has done this twice so he'll probably do it again - and such arguments are rightly excluded in any fair tribunal other than in exceptional circumstances.
The tip sheets should be about situations, not about individual players or specific teams.
If they are not then they are inherently unfair.
If they are then prove it by making them public.

 

[sheridanstand78]

There is no doubt that there are some pre-conceived ideas from some referees about certain players and certain teams. If you note how DCE spoke to Perenara last night, with respect and got the bums rush pretty much from the ref, contrast that with Scam Smith and the liberties he takes and continually gets away with. You get a bit fed up when you see this and that a captain has a right to question why the rules are not being applied to both teams. Our last 2 away games we have copped a combined penalty count of 23-7. You can rightly say that Manly must improve their discipline for sure, but there is no way our opponents were that much more disciplined. I struggle to remember when we last won a penalty count. We have had decisions go our way such as the Newcastle game and the one we got last night on their 2nd try was a poor one.

All you ask for is consistency, Perenara was heard to say to DCE "Your team is playing badly and the warning stands!!" Well, I did not see the same warning apply to the Riff, when they were allowed to stand offside and slow down the play ball. Respect is a 2-way street. We saw DCE show that and we got zip in return!

 

[Rynostradamus]

We have won one penalty count this season and drawn one.

This is what the tip sheets say:
Manly lose penalty count $10000 bonus
Manly lose penalty count 2:1 $20000 bonus
Manly lose penalty count 3:1+ $100000 garaunteed finals apppintment and an invite to archers gf after party

 

[globaleagle]

The other infuriating thing about those sheets is that the refs all claim they just "call them as they see them."

if this is the case, then why do you need tip sheets to warn you about possible habitual infringers?

And if the tip sheets don't exist then Hollywood Bill certainly did come out in an interview and say refs go in to the games with pre conceived ideas. This is why Watmough never got the benefit of the doubt.

But somehow Reynolds can get away with being a serial tripper.

 

[Boozo]

For 'tip sheet', read 'cheat sheet'.

 

[sean1976]

Good post. Last nights refereeing had preconceived notion of how Manly play written all over it. There was also a dumb as **** article on NRL.com during the week that jumped from the fact that Manly, Cronulla and storm are most successful teams and most heavily penalised, to some half arsed notion that we win by purposely giving away penalties when defending in our own quarter. Absolutely no evidence cited for this horse **** theory but the refs read this **** and Perinaras refereeing had this kind of attitude written all over it.

 

[Mark from Brisbane]

These should be made public.
To see a team in effect refereed in advance and penalised on suspicion of an infringement is distressing and infuriating for fans of the game.
These ref 'tip sheets' we hear about amount to another set of rules which no-one else can see.
They equate to a tendency argument - Player X has done this twice so he'll probably do it again - and such arguments are rightly excluded in any fair tribunal other than in exceptional circumstances.
The tip sheets should be about situations, not about individual players or specific teams.
If they are not then they are inherently unfair.
If they are then prove it by making them public.

If true, and I'm not in anyway doubting you then this is a greater blight on the game than I've been talking about ( my tin foil hat) for years.

 

[Little Grubber Kick]

If true, and I'm not in anyway doubting you then this is a greater blight on the game than I've been talking about ( my tin foil hat) for years.

It is simply ONE aspect of the 'blight'
There are many more aspects and they are all about making money.
Gambling on 'ENTERTAINMENT' is illegal, but who is enforcing it?

 

[MadMarcus]

No need to make it public. I know what it says:

PENALISE MANLY

 

[Kiwi Eagle]

Will never forget a game from years ago, up against Newcastle I think it was, Matai injured watching from the grandstands, we get penalised early, Orford goes up for an explanation and the ref replies with "Steve Matai, he's been doing it all game"