Seriously has Manly ever had success with an outside coach, I think if we miss the 8 this will reinforce that we need someone from inside to right the ship. I always thought having so many Different players from other clubs and not enough juniors that came thru when we had that golden era to carry it on. I believe the Penns and FUlton got it wrong. These elite players should have being kept around to pass on the winning formula. Imagine if they looked after Stewart brothers, Matia and co. I have nothing against Barrett, but I don't see Manly when I look at him and Cartwright what a Tosser These guys were winners, might have being larikins but got the job done. I hold my breath until we get a Manly boy back at the helm, I don't care who it is. Luv to see Cliffy have a go. I can sympathize with the bulldogs on this issue.