NRL's reply to Me around Matai / Stewart

Ryan

Journey Man
So, as you all know, I wrote the NRL about their tardiness in the decision making process around Brett Stewart and Steve Matai, and our request for approval around medical retirements. Unfortunately, they intimated (unless I'm readind this wrong - please let me know), that The Sea Eagles aren't providing all the necessary paperwork / information (which is pretty disappointing). Here it is for you in full - thought's?

To The Administration of the NRL & Todd Greenburg,

I write to you, concerning the NRL's procrastination around the decision making process, regarding the allowances available to Steve Matai, and The Manly Warringah Sea Eagles similar to that afforded by The NRL to Anthony Watmough, and the Parramatta Eels.

Whilst this submission / request by individual & club may be monetarily based, what The NRL obviously isn't considering in its tardiness, is the affinity said player had with the clubs very passionate fans, family members, key stake holders, and their want to farewell these club legends in a timely & appropriate manner (Brett Stewart included), befitting their status in the game & for the club / members.

I therefore implore Todd Greenburg to step up as a leader in the game, offer the same dispensation afforded the Parramatta Eels & allow the fans their God given right to send off these diamonds of the game , without the negative shawl of yet another hard edged anti Northern Beaches Greenburg decision making process darkening the experience.

As can be seen statistically, goodwill & NRL crowds are diminishing, attributed in part to affinity with players, clubs & fans widening. 100,975 fans attended games round one, some 13.8% down on the previous year, and the lowest since 1996, when only 30,198 watched just the four games played.

Todd, please have a sense of honor in your decision making process. Understand the implications. Let fans be fans, and send off two true club legends the right way.

Please don't provide me with a vanilla, stapled response from a fellow staffer. I'd love to hear your insight into your resolution & decision making process, and if you don't mind, that will be published publicly.

Looking forward to YOUR reply.

Kind Regards,

Ryan Winter

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Hi Ryan,

Thank you for your email to Todd and apologies for the delay.

We are not in a position to discuss individual cases. However as set out in the CBA and NRL rules, the NRL will make a decision on cases such as medical retirement when ALL the required information is provided. This should not stop the Club, if the player and the club have both agreed the player has retired, in farewelling the player.

It is also worth noting that the CBA requires players to be paid out their full entitlement of any future years of their contract or reach a suitable termination with the Club.

I hope this helps with your query and we thank you for your passionate support of Manly and Rugby League.

Kind regards

Robert
Supporter Liaison



NRL Feedback


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Sounds lame duck to me. My mail was that the NRL were asking the impossible and that the required information was unattainable, hence they don't have ALL the information required. It's the lets go around in a circle approach.
 
Sounds lame duck to me. My mail was that the NRL were asking the impossible and that the required information was unattainable, hence they don't have ALL the information required. It's the lets go around in a circle approach.

So one has to ask how Anthony Watmough's request was so easily accepted? How were The Parramatta Eels management able to get the information required so readily, and Manly not so?

Are the NRL discriminating against Manly, or is Manly's records and commentary unsatisfactory for the purposes of this exercise?

I know this is semantics, but as lame of a person as this makes me sound, Steve Matai & Brett Stewart's brilliance on the field, got me through some very dark and tough times in life through their amazing entertainment.

I want the ability to get down there with my kids, stand on the fence and scream these guys names at the top of my lungs for what they have done, and what they may do in the future.

Sucks. Sorry I'm so passionate about this guys. We OWE it to these men to farewell them appropriately and fittingly.
 
Hard to believe that a player's medical records are not readily available in digital form. 😵

These guys are treated by Clubs weekly and are sent to known outside specialists @:cool:

Manly have known since mid 2016 that these 2 were unlikely to take the field again.

Strange @:mask:
 
Lol Ryan if you were a coach or club employee your letter would have cost you $10000 for alleging bias against Northern Beaches! But even so it deserved better than that vanilla response (not even Vanilla essence, that was merely imitation vanilla flavouring).
 
Lol Ryan if you were a coach or club employee your letter would have cost you $10000 for alleging bias against Northern Beaches! But even so it deserved better than that vanilla response (not even Vanilla essence, that was merely imitation vanilla flavouring).

The life expectancy of an employee of The Manly-Warringah Sea Eagles is akin to an actor/actress' character on The Walking Dead these days.

Hahaha.
 
Could you imagine if the nrl gave us both clearances, imagine the team this year with another one or two top of the line forwards.
 
So, as you all know, I wrote the NRL about their tardiness in the decision making process around Brett Stewart and Steve Matai, and our request for approval around medical retirements. Unfortunately, they intimated (unless I'm readind this wrong - please let me know), that The Sea Eagles aren't providing all the necessary paperwork / information (which is pretty disappointing). Here it is for you in full - thought's?

To The Administration of the NRL & Todd Greenburg,

I write to you, concerning the NRL's procrastination around the decision making process, regarding the allowances available to Steve Matai, and The Manly Warringah Sea Eagles similar to that afforded by The NRL to Anthony Watmough, and the Parramatta Eels.

Whilst this submission / request by individual & club may be monetarily based, what The NRL obviously isn't considering in its tardiness, is the affinity said player had with the clubs very passionate fans, family members, key stake holders, and their want to farewell these club legends in a timely & appropriate manner (Brett Stewart included), befitting their status in the game & for the club / members.

I therefore implore Todd Greenburg to step up as a leader in the game, offer the same dispensation afforded the Parramatta Eels & allow the fans their God given right to send off these diamonds of the game , without the negative shawl of yet another hard edged anti Northern Beaches Greenburg decision making process darkening the experience.

As can be seen statistically, goodwill & NRL crowds are diminishing, attributed in part to affinity with players, clubs & fans widening. 100,975 fans attended games round one, some 13.8% down on the previous year, and the lowest since 1996, when only 30,198 watched just the four games played.

Todd, please have a sense of honor in your decision making process. Understand the implications. Let fans be fans, and send off two true club legends the right way.

Please don't provide me with a vanilla, stapled response from a fellow staffer. I'd love to hear your insight into your resolution & decision making process, and if you don't mind, that will be published publicly.

Looking forward to YOUR reply.

Kind Regards,

Ryan Winter

_____________________________________________________________________

Hi Ryan,

Thank you for your email to Todd and apologies for the delay.

We are not in a position to discuss individual cases. However as set out in the CBA and NRL rules, the NRL will make a decision on cases such as medical retirement when ALL the required information is provided. This should not stop the Club, if the player and the club have both agreed the player has retired, in farewelling the player.

It is also worth noting that the CBA requires players to be paid out their full entitlement of any future years of their contract or reach a suitable termination with the Club.

I hope this helps with your query and we thank you for your passionate support of Manly and Rugby League.

Kind regards

Robert
Supporter Liaison



NRL Feedback


T: +61 2 9359 8500
E: [email protected]
W: nrl.com

National Rugby League Limited
Rugby League Central, Driver Avenue
Moore Park NSW 2021
Locked Bag 5000, Paddington NSW 2021
You're a legend. A great initiative and your request are fully justified. The response is vanilla and it smacks of a lawyer's involvement. Bollocks to it all.
 
Hmm...if you're reading between the lines then their third paragraph says that Manly don't want to pay out Matai and Stewart.
 
Ryan

Great work champ

I applaud you on your effort to correspond in such a way and your dedication to asking some legitimate questions & concerns that represent the view of our manly fans

I am also not sure of the answer and wonder if they are giving a vanilla reply or being cautious in describing the situation without providing words that may compromise our club or management or former players

The question now remains where to next

Are our club management prepared to expand on the response from the NRL

Or perhaps our club wants its cake and eat it too in the way they are pitching a solution to the players payout that is in conflict with their application to the league

Well done mate

Typical corporate response that needs to be matched with another from our club

Go manly
 
It is not ideal that this issue has not been resolved and it seems that the club need to do more to get the NRL to act.

I do hope that both Snake and Skiv are given the appropriate farewell at Brooky that they richly deserve!!
 
It is not ideal that this issue has not been resolved and it seems that the club need to do more to get the NRL to act.

I do hope that both Snake and Skiv are given the appropriate farewell at Brooky that they richly deserve!!

If it happens at all it will be at the last home game, but honestly I doubt it will actually take place.
 

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