No more excuses in 2017

[maxta]

I totally agree to have 2 big boppers rubbed out in a dubious way - stinks big time....
Thing is - such is life as a Manly supporter.
The 1 thing we know before a ball is kicked any season - we will get zero favours from the NRL.
Still enough quality to build on last weeks gutsy performance and get the 2 points against an underwhelming Souths team.
Need to kickstart the season on Sat and not have any of these pre drilled excuses....maybe look from another angle that Cullen and Lane are getting great opportunities to play great games and win a spot in the 17 even when AFB/Kapow return....at others players expense.
I think both have potential to do just that so let's set the bar that we expect this to be the case, that we get the win....not prepare for....we were missing players....personally excited to see these boys rip in and show why Manly signed them for 2017...game on!!

 

[ricardo]

I'm just hoping Barrett can hold aloft some prestigious silverware like his last:

 

[nightster]

 

[Holmsey]

I'm starting to seriously doubt Barrett as a coach. The team was great on the weekend, should have won if we had more ball I reckon. But some Barretts team choices and tactics are silly to say the least. Just bring back an actual manly coach so we can start rebuilding seriously instead changing everything every year.

 

[PONTIAN SEA EAGLE]

I heard on talking sport 2 of the burgess boys are out.If true then there's definitely no excuses.

 

[nightster]

they have been dropped no?

 

[maxta]

they have been dropped no?

Yep George dropped
Tom not selected
And though Reynolds name is popping up...highly doubtful

 

[sheridanstand78]

If the team control the ball we have a great chance. Our halves have to take control. That was the big difference last weekend. I liked what I saw with our defence and I hope that standard is maintained.

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

I'm starting to seriously doubt Barrett as a coach. The team was great on the weekend, should have won if we had more ball I reckon. But some Barretts team choices and tactics are silly to say the least. Just bring back an actual manly coach so we can start rebuilding seriously instead changing everything every year.

Yeah, I wish actual Manly coach Bob Fulton was allowed to have some say, then we'd be going ok!

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

And though Reynolds name is popping up...highly doubtful

If Reynolds can get out of bed Maguire will send him out, no risk. But he won't be fit so don't worry about it.
Maguire probably has special assistants to help injured players get dressed before each match.

 

[PONTIAN SEA EAGLE]

Surely surely we can't lose this you'll have to close this forum down if we do.

 

[Shoe1]

If Reynolds can get out of bed Maguire will send him out, no risk. But he won't be fit so don't worry about it.
Maguire probably has special assistants to help injured players get dressed before each match.

Usually appendix ops are keyhole these days, but it does cut through muscle. One tackle around the tummy area would be enough to shorten him up. McGuire will make him play I reckon, given the inglis debacle last week.

 

[Mals]

It shouldn't matter if Reynolds is playing or not, this is a must win game for our club. We need to show we can beat teams at Brookie regardless of who is in their playing roster. Win this weekend and we head to Townsville in a positive mindset. If we lose we will be looking at being 0 from 3 and then playing another bogey team in the Bulldogs.

 

[Ron E. Gibbs]

Nice idea, maxta, but you're too late: the excuses have already started. First up, from round one, the old "It was the ref's fault" chestnut. Second, all the "ifs and buts": if Tommy T had dummied, if that knock on against Kelly hadn't been called, etc. And now we have the MRC handing out suspensions to our two best props, plus injuries to Perrett and Darcy. Plenty of excuses if you want to look for them, and Barrett has a habit of looking for them, even if he starts his sentences with "We're not making any excuses but…"
I remember a time, not too long ago, when Manly teams didn't need excuses. When they played against a bit of adversity and fought their luck and won footy games regardless. We have to find ways to win instead of finding excuses for losing. Holding onto the ball and not giving away dopey penalties might help and should be easy enough to rectify, but the evidence of the last few seasons suggests bad habits have become engrained in the team. The players are also used to losing, which ain't good either.
But one win could make all the difference. We just have to get it, so why not start against Souths?

 

[Mark from Brisbane]

Surely surely we can't lose this you'll have to close this forum down if we do.

We haven't lost 7 straight and heading for 8 yet, that's the close down point!!!

 

[TimmyQ]

Look I bloody well hope we DO win obviously but I gotta tell ya...I look at our pack and man oh man we have minimal go forward in that lot. Lawrence and Myles couldn't bend a spoon let alone the line, Sirro does the easy edge runs very occasionally and then we have Lane, little Cullen and Lewy on the bench. Our kicking game and ability to play good field position will be absolutely CRITICAL because if we're playing out of our end a lot we will seriously struggle with those forwards to get us out of there. Fair to say Jorge and Uate are really gonna have to muscle up and take lots of hard hard runs early in our sets to at least provide us with a bit of momentum to work off.

 

[Fluffy]

Yep George dropped
Tom not selected
And though Reynolds name is popping up...highly doubtful

I can see Reynolds playing.

Lots of noise around it, if he turns up for the captains run then he will play, wont know until then.

 

[Mark from Brisbane]

I guess it's a 2nd tier cap issue , but I'm surprised we aren't bringing up the best two props from Blacktown.

Due to this, and even with a few Burgi out, Souffs are likely to roll through us very easily, and I fear this will lead to a flogging.

But it's the week after we should fear, can you but imagine the Cowboys forwards rolling forward backed up by Thurston, Morgan and Coote at the back......now that is just plain bloody scary!!!!

 

[maxta]

Nice idea, maxta, but you're too late: the excuses have already started. First up, from round one, the old "It was the ref's fault" chestnut. Second, all the "ifs and buts": if Tommy T had dummied, if that knock on against Kelly hadn't been called, etc. And now we have the MRC handing out suspensions to our two best props, plus injuries to Perrett and Darcy. Plenty of excuses if you want to look for them, and Barrett has a habit of looking for them, even if he starts his sentences with "We're not making any excuses but…"
I remember a time, not too long ago, when Manly teams didn't need excuses. When they played against a bit of adversity and fought their luck and won footy games regardless. We have to find ways to win instead of finding excuses for losing. Holding onto the ball and not giving away dopey penalties might help and should be easy enough to rectify, but the evidence of the last few seasons suggests bad habits have become engrained in the team. The players are also used to losing, which ain't good either.
But one win could make all the difference. We just have to get it, so why not start against Souths?

This is exactly it mate - the belief must be there we are capable of winning games despite "this or that"....
As you stated ....and I include the 40-0 Melbourne GF....where we were dudded on calls and think we got pumped in the penalty dept?
End of the day rip in and let the result look after itself.
If we are prematurely looking for excuses pre game - our chances are reduced significantly.
Personally don't mind calling out bad decisions and major injury as discussion, but this is getting an easy out and needs to stop.
If we won last Sunday I doubt there would been minimal discussion on these points...more look at what happened here but we didnt drop our lip and in fact - used this to get pumped up being so up against it.
The Manly I know uses negative press - the us against them mentallity....not familiar with the "self pity"excuse basket, coming out for a picnic after each game....

 

[Mark from Brisbane]

This is exactly it mate - the belief must be there we are capable of winning games despite "this or that"....
As you stated ....and I include the 40-0 Melbourne GF....where we were dudded on calls and think we got pumped in the penalty dept?
End of the day rip in and let the result look after itself.
If we are prematurely looking for excuses pre game - our chances are reduced significantly.
Personally don't mind calling out bad decisions and major injury as discussion, but this is getting an easy out and needs to stop.
If we won last Sunday I doubt there would been minimal discussion on these points...more look at what happened here but we didnt drop our lip and in fact - used this to get pumped up being so up against it.
The Manly I know uses negative press - the us against them mentallity....not familiar with the "self pity"excuse basket, coming out for a picnic after each game....

What!!!.......you don't like a " pity party"?