I recall only recently, every team feared the clash against Manly due to the physical contact , the players basically bashed the opposition into submission winning 90 % of the contacts in attack & defence. Apart from Jake defensively & Vave in attack....the players are being bullied. I can understand why in attack- no support players pushing up with the ball carrier, so the 3-4 defenders charge in & dominate & control the speed of the play. This is reversed in attack, offering more option runners the opposition, in this case Penrith, iscolate a defender to either make a break or win the contact , at very least winning a fast play ball as Manly back peddle with yawning gaps both behind the ruck & on the edge...& so on & so on. The tempo of the game is being owned by the opposition every game, so sad to see after such a tough, resilient standard had been set just a few years ago built on winning that collision & usually....the game.