[Resurrected] Is the NRL competition rigged?

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SeaEagleRock8

Sea Eagle Lach
Premium Member
Tipping Member
I’ve just done rounds of other team forums and the comments are pretty much the same - expecting the game will be managed favouring the Sharks and ultimately the NRL’s bank balance. The suspicion and cynicism is quite sad tbh.
NRL always want big fan-base clubs like Eels Dogs and Broncos contending at the pointy end, but sometimes their teams are just too crap to get there.

Not only that, but Panthers look bored and unimpressive, Chooks clunky and have had to call up their 2nd tier Test stars, Sharks keep losing and Storm are robotic but unlikely to capture the imagination of the wider fanbase.

So... the best storyline for this years finals will be the resurgence of Manly and Cowboys!

Manly just need to win today to set it all up.
 

BOZO

Journey Man
Tipping Member
Somethings never change
The losers and the Tall poppies never change

All the losers and Tall poppies thought the game was rigged When our Manly Legendary Premiership Winning Godfather was in Charge

All the Losers and Tall possies despised Manly and I was sick and tired of their Whining , Whinging and Continuous Constipated Conspiracy theories
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mickqld

Sea Eagle forever
Tipping Member
NRL always want big fan-base clubs like Eels Dogs and Broncos contending at the pointy end, but sometimes their teams are just too crap to get there.

Not only that, but Panthers look bored and unimpressive, Chooks clunky and have had to call up their 2nd tier Test stars, Sharks keep losing and Storm are robotic but unlikely to capture the imagination of the wider fanbase.

So... the best storyline for this years finals will be the resurgence of Manly and Cowboys!

Manly just need to win today to set it all up.
Have to agree with this. Every other nrl supporter has had it with the Riff, drizzle and rorters. The sharks inspire nobody except a few niff nuffs from the shire. The dogs have shot their load and are now clearly deadmeat. That just leaves the Cows ,Manly and Phins or Knights to inject some variety into what otherwise will be a lifeless boring final series.
 

Will on the hill

Bencher
Tipping Member
Hypothetically if the NRL was willing to rig games to give the Dogs home finals they would've at least had a crack at getting them the win last night. The fact the Dogs lost suggests either the NRL don't rig games or they aren't so good at it that teams can't overcome the bias.

Personally I don't think the NRL are competent enough to pull of a conspiracy of the magnitude that would be required to intentionally orchestrate results. At worst maybe they put their finger on the scales to keep games close but they aren't even good at that.
 

mickqld

Sea Eagle forever
Tipping Member
Hypothetically if the NRL was willing to rig games to give the Dogs home finals they would've at least had a crack at getting them the win last night. The fact the Dogs lost suggests either the NRL don't rig games or they aren't so good at it that teams can't overcome the bias.

Personally I don't think the NRL are competent enough to pull of a conspiracy of the magnitude that would be required to intentionally orchestrate results. At worst maybe they put their finger on the scales to keep games close but they aren't even good at that.
If it isn't manipulation of outcomes then it's definitely just horrendous incompetence.
 

LeonardCohen

Bencher
Hypothetically if the NRL was willing to rig games to give the Dogs home finals they would've at least had a crack at getting them the win last night. The fact the Dogs lost suggests either the NRL don't rig games or they aren't so good at it that teams can't overcome the bias.

Personally I don't think the NRL are competent enough to pull of a conspiracy of the magnitude that would be required to intentionally orchestrate results. At worst maybe they put their finger on the scales to keep games close but they aren't even good at that.
I don't believe they fix games for a variety reasons. (1) Eventually there would be a whistleblower and we haven't had one yet. (2) No stat dec/disclosure agreement between governing body and those implicated, could hold up amongst something so obviously corrupt and illegal; thereby nullifying that reason for no whistleblower. (3) If it ever came out the game would be dead and that's a big risk. (4) It would have to filter from the top down to referees and eventually someone would have enough integrity to break rank. (5) The billions of dollars of betting money would mean a guilty party would wind up behind bars.

I don't think anyone at NRL HQ cares enough to rig the games in the face of all of that. I imagine implicit helping hands (e.g. soft draw, long turnarounds) probably happen but outright fixing of games, no.
 

XV-1

First Grader
LOLOLOL

according to all the idiot conspiracy theorists right here on this thread, Manly must have been on the take to lose this match against the sharks.

I hope they got paid well by the NRL cos Manly really really did a great job at losing. 😆

There needs to he an investigation 🤣😂🤣
 

Terry Zarsoff

First Grader
The ref did a good job today. Cronulla were by far the better side. Good to see that the ref allowed the players to decide the result.
The try that took the game beyond Manly’s reach (to 26, then 28-8) was clearly off a forward pass. The last pass that is.

Of course no mention of that from the commentary team.
 

Hibyemama

Reserve Grader
i take back how hopeless koula is. Today , apart from dropping a pass while attacking the sharks line, slipping over as the last line of defence that resulted in the sharks player unopposed scoring a try and generally having no impact and been stopped dead in his tracks on hit ups, the 88Kg midget did score a face saving try to bring it to 20-40. With Koula in the side, manly has the best chance of winning games, not jus any game, i am saying the GF. Love Koula 😁 even the TV commentator say that Koula has ton of ability , and can make something out of nothing. I must admit I have been wrong. Koula is indeed a treasure to behold 👍👍 the score would have been embarrassing without Koula today.
 

Fibro Eagle

Bencher
Premium Member
Tipping Member
If it isn't manipulation of outcomes then it's definitely just horrendous incompetence.
It is incompetence every week you see different decisions , 2 weeks ago Ramein gets 10 in the bin this week no sin bin , when the sharks scored one of there tries the guy played the ball sideways anyway it’s in all games not just manly games
Referees have always made makes but it’s the bunker now that creates all the incompetence
 

mickqld

Sea Eagle forever
Tipping Member
i take back how hopeless koula is. Today , apart from dropping a pass while attacking the sharks line, slipping over as the last line of defence that resulted in the sharks player unopposed scoring a try and generally having no impact and been stopped dead in his tracks on hit ups, the 88Kg midget did score a face saving try to bring it to 20-40. With Koula in the side, manly has the best chance of winning games, not jus any game, i am saying the GF. Love Koula 😁 even the TV commentator say that Koula has ton of ability , and can make something out of nothing. I must admit I have been wrong. Koula is indeed a treasure to behold 👍👍 the score would have been embarrassing without Koula today.
40 points conceeded at a sold out Brookie playing for a home final isn't embarrassing ???
 

vidmar

Bencher
Not a fan of the drizzel but I think you answered your own question...

Investments can go either way and there was no guarantee that putting money in would result in the massive payoff that it seems they are now looking at... no different to playing the stockmarket or crypto...
HI and thanks for the input.
I'm not sure if you got the point that I was making in that people who are active in the game(s) - with inside info - are owners of a business that takes wagers on the game.
I'd suggest that is a conflict of interest?
Or at the very least, allows them to be considered to be seen to have.
And, to be honest... in terms of a sound "investment", there's a big difference in a betting agency and the stock market or crypto... as has been proven by the massive money that was mentioned in my original post.
 

The Who

Journey Man
If the teams in the NRL were race horses most of them would fall under suspicion. How can Manly beat the top three teams and lose to the bottom three teams? How can Cronulla let slip a massive lead to the Worriers one week and then play extremely well the next week?
Form? How can anyone bet on the NRL with any confidence? No wonder betting companies continue to prosper.
 

frank stokes

I discriminate indiscriminately
HI and thanks for the input.
I'm not sure if you got the point that I was making in that people who are active in the game(s) - with inside info - are owners of a business that takes wagers on the game.
I'd suggest that is a conflict of interest?
Or at the very least, allows them to be considered to be seen to have.
And, to be honest... in terms of a sound "investment", there's a big difference in a betting agency and the stock market or crypto... as has been proven by the massive money that was mentioned in my original post.
Your first point definitely has merit and I do not tend to disagree...

I was more referring to the second point which I do not agree with... any betting agency operates in a free market and will sink or swim on the basis of its competitiveness... in a perfect world the business accesses sufficient capital to develop industry-leading interfaces and generate sufficient exposure in the marketplace... however, there is no guarantee that the business will not over-capitalise its investment, be out-competed and fall-over...

Perhaps, the level of the drizzle player's investment risks were managed/protected, maybe not - regardless, good luck to the NRL trying to investigate/police it.... externally it is an investment in the capitalisation of a free-market enterprise and any "under-writing" is unlikely to be recorded in the company's capital expenditure statements...
 
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