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interesting article by peter fitzsimons

Discussion in 'Rugby League Forum' started by castle eagle, Aug 22, 2013.

  1. castle eagle

    castle eagle Well-Known Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

    +1,032 /9
    It seems a pattern of brutality is emerging here, Mr Maguire.

    You suck one lousy one ... and what do they call you?
    But I digress. TFF's item last week about the outrage of South Sydney forward Sam Burgess attacking another man's genitals to further the chances of winning a football match, saw your humble correspondent accused of being engaged in ''league-bashing''.
    Those accusations notwithstanding, this week I cannot resist raising the subject of his teammate Jeff Lima. Last week, early in the first half of the game against Manly, Lima grabbed the right leg of his opponent Anthony Watmough – known to be carrying a strained posterior cruciate ligament on that very leg – and even though the tackle was completed, did a ''death roll''. That is, Lima gratuitously twisted his body the way a crocodile drowns its prey, so Watmough's leg and, thus, knee would twist with it.

    Feeling the pinch: the Storm's Will Chambers. Photo: Getty Images
    You with me? He specifically targeted the injury of another player so as to exacerbate that injury further. His reward? Watmough limped for the rest of the match, Souths won and Lima received a very tepid one-week suspension. But here is the question. Where was the public outcry? The outrage? Is this really what sport has come to, that, apart from a few fuddy-duddies tut-tutting in the judiciary, it is quite permissible to try and MAIM an opponent?
    It seems while on the one hand rugby league constantly promotes the image of the former captains of the St George and Wests teams Arthur Summons and Norm Provan warmly embracing each other at the end of the 1963 grand final, the harsh reality is bitterly different.
    That rightly celebrated photo bespeaks football sportsmanship at the highest level, of two men who have thrown everything at each other for 80 minutes, but who at the conclusion of it, are even better friends than before. ''The Gladiators'' embodies the spirit of football the way it is meant to be played.

    Twist and shout: Jeff Lima (bottom left) tackles Anthony Watmough. Photo: Channel 9

    What the Lima act represents, however, is thuggish bastardry pure and simple. And it is not as if it is a one-off, for either the NRL or Lima.
    In the NRL there are dozens of cases, the most notable modern example of which was in 2008 when Paul Gallen infamously worked his fingers beneath the bandages of Anthony Laffranchi, and ripped into the freshly inserted stitches the Gold Coast forward had just had put into a bad head wound.
    Laffranchi had to leave the field, and shortly thereafter, Gallen went after another player's testicles, all as part of his previously enunciated dictum: ''We've got a motto here at the Sharks – do whatever it takes to win.''

    Shame file: South Sydney coach Michael Maguire. Photo: Getty Images
    As to Lima himself, here is a thumbnail sketch of his record – even if that thumbnail might feel like it's boring into your eyeball.
    ❏ March 2009. Charged with a ''chicken wing'' tackle while playing for Melbourne. (The chicken wing seeks to injure the arm of the opponent.)
    ❏ July 2009. Reported by referee for a ''crusher'' tackle, again while playing for the Storm. (The crusher seeks to hamper the movement of your opponent by putting pressure on their head or neck.)
    ❏ May 2010. Playing for the Storm, charged with ''dangerous throw''. One-week ban.
    ❏ February 2011. Two charges of ''chicken wing'' tackles while playing his first match for Wigan in Britain, with two match suspensions, fined £300.
    ❏ April 2011. Reported for late shoulder charge on Johnathan Thurston ... escaped charge.
    Lima has, thus, what we refer to in the trade, as ''form''.
    Most troubling of all is the role of Souths coach Michael Maguire in the piece. For not only was Maguire the coach who presided over the latest Lima and Burgess atrocities, but he was also Lima's assistant coach at the Storm and his coach at Wigan. In Britain, as in Australia, coaches have become wary of the dangerous tactics that seem to be promoted by Maguire.
    In the words of The Guardian, in April 2011: ''To rival Super League coaches, players and administrators, Maguire remains a divisive figure because of the tactics and, specifically tackling techniques, that underpinned Wigan's rapid rise last season.'' (Is this sounding familiar?)
    In the Herald this year, we noted of Maguire's time in Britain, ''Perhaps one source of motivation was a series of photos along a corridor at Wigan's training base. One photo of an opposition player lying on the ground after a heavy tackle by four Wigan players was captioned: 'Roadkill achieved'.''
    I have it from one strong source that, shortly after Maguire arrived at Souths, the battle cry ''roadkill'' started to be heard from Souths sides. It is a serious matter. In the NFL recently, the defensive co-ordinator of the New Orleans Saints had to resign after it emerged he had been offering cash rewards for tackles that took key opponents out of the game – and rightly so.
    I don't say Maguire has done that with Souths. But I do say a pattern of brutality is beginning to emerge under his tenure that is outrageous, and needs to called out as such.
    Twitter - @Peter_Fitz

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/it-seems-a-pattern-of-brutality-is-emerging-here-mr-maguire-20130821-2sbts.html#ixzz2cg0Xo7zU
  2. southsideeagle

    southsideeagle Well-Known Member Premium Member

    +523 /13
    wow I think that is what is referred to as both barrels. I was standing beside someone who was on the phone to Madge just after the first game against Manly and he went right off about how we went after Inglis. I would love to ask how he rated the Lima incident. I think it was disgraceful.
  3. HappilyManly

    HappilyManly MWTS Premium Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

    +19,022 /367
    The truth is now out there and karma is about to swoop :cool:
  4. SeaEagleRock8

    SeaEagleRock8 Sea Eagle Lach Staff Member Premium Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

    +10,538 /214
    Maybe we've all been too harsh on Bellamy. Maguire might have been his ideas man all along. Looking very grubby indeed at this point.
  5. Budgewoi Eagle

    Budgewoi Eagle In for the long haul. Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor 2017 Tipping Competitor

    +5,817 /82
    The beauty of Peter Fitz is that he is beholden to no-one in the world of rugby league. Too often in Australian sports (and arts, but for that's another place) 'journalism' the journalist is reliant on those he or she is writing about for stories and thus, objectivity is lost. Was so pleased to read this.
  6. Killer03

    Killer03 Well-Known Member

    +3,437 /32
    Don't mistake Fitzsimmons going after Souths as anything other than bashing rugby league.
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    • manlyfan76

      manlyfan76 Parra Trolls are the best. Premium Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

      +8,020 /174
      Fitz must have loosened the bandanna. He is making sense.
    • TokyoEagle

      TokyoEagle Well-Known Member

      +566 /8

      Whenever he can put the boot in.
    • voicefromthehill

      voicefromthehill Well-Known Member Premium Member

      +1,608 /13
      Are you saying his article isn't correct? Or if it is, why is it wrong to highlight this emerging pattern of unsportsmanlike behaviour?
    • Killer03

      Killer03 Well-Known Member

      +3,437 /32
      Not at all, what I am saying is that Peter Fitzsimmons articles could be headed 'Why I hate rugby league'. His articles usually have some slant towards this, and on this occasion he actually has a genuine reason.

      What I'm trying to say is that he would have been rubbing his hands with glee at these actions so he could write about them.
    • voicefromthehill

      voicefromthehill Well-Known Member Premium Member

      +1,608 /13
      I understand
    • jwaa

      jwaa member 2017 Tipping Competitor

      +84 /6
      Never get that sort of thuggery in union.

      Just the harmless case of eye gouging and head stomping every now and then - boys will be boys!
    • manlyfan76

      manlyfan76 Parra Trolls are the best. Premium Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

      +8,020 /174
      and team mates punching on, Reds players stealing laptops on the gold coast, assaulting bouncers in brisbane, I could go on.
    • MadMarcus

      MadMarcus Local Lunatic 2017 Tipping Competitor

      +8,375 /74
      Wow, there are plenty of deluded Souths fans posting in the comments section on that one.
    • Ron E. Gibbs

      Ron E. Gibbs Well-Known Member

      +2,335 /21
      Fitzsimons is and always will be a tool of the highest order, with or without his bandana. And like most journalists, he's fundamentally lazy and prefers other people to do do his work for him. So he's read "The Guardian" article that was posted here (maybe one of his lackeys even read it while trawling this site) and re-fashioned it, added a few "dinkums" here and there and blended in a little of his own Vichy France hatred of rugby league - et voila! An article and insight he can claim as his own.
      Having said that, yeah - Souths are thugs and cheats:)
    • Rex

      Rex Well-Known Member

      +2,376 /60
      Maguire has the stench, no doubt.
    • Under the Sticks

      Under the Sticks Fan of fullbacks Premium Member

      +371 /0
      so you have an ex-storm coach teaching/encouraging another ex-storm player grubby tactics whilst another ex-storm player throws himself in the air and/or on the ground to milk a penalty.

      I'll be keeping a close eye :cool: on Matt King this week for his turn!
    • bazeagle

      bazeagle Well-Known Member

      +568 /107
      crap and bollocks - your comment is based on nothing. zero.
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      • Lord Eagleton

        Lord Eagleton Well-Known Member

        +1,482 /36
        Spot on.
        Fitzsimon's is a very intelligent man. Anyone can see that. Of course he is biased towards rugby, but he is not a hypocritical bigot either. Its unfair to assume he is out to 'bash rugby league'.

        When he see's something that needs to be said, in league or union, he will say it. The things he writes are 99% of the time accurate and relevant. This article is no different. Thoroughly enjoyed it, because you can see there is compelling evidence in it to suggest it is probably true.
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        • globaleagle

          globaleagle Je saisis mon chapeau. Staff Member Premium Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

          +13,310 /117
          Fitzsimmons fined $10,000 by greenburg for bringing the untouchables into disre-truth!

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