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From today's Telegraph.

MANLY are one of several clubs furious at the NRL about being kept in the dark over being able to stage a salary cap-exempt testimonial game like the one being offered to Cameron Smith and Johnathan Thurston.

The NRL claims it started to formulated the policy a year ago but clubs were not made aware of the decision.

Sea Eagles coach Trent Barrett said if they were aware of the loophole, they would have explored the possibility of giving club favourites Brett Stewart, Jamie Lyon and Steve Matai a testimonial game.

Rival clubs were furious following revelations in The Daily Telegraph that NRL boss Todd Greenberg has endorsed a deal that will allow Melbourne and North Queensland to exploit next year’s salary cap by a combined $1.5 million.

In what is seen as another blatant salary cap inconsistency, a trial is being planned at Suncorp Stadium in February where Smith and Thurston, two of the game’s highest paid players, will pocket all gate takings, sponsorship, merchandise and potential TV rights.

TESTIMONIAL: The $1.5 cap loophole for Smith, Thurston

TAUPAU: It’s a grand final for us

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media_cameraJamie Lyon, Brett Stewart and Steve Matai celebrate with the premiership trophy after winning the 2011 NRL Grand Final.
Sharks coach Shane Flanagan said the revelations opened up “a can of worms” but the NRL responded by saying it had formulated guidelines to outline who would be eligible for a testimonial game — a player must have been at a club for at least 10 consecutive years, racked up 250 NRL appearances, already be contracted for the season of the testimonial game which must be a trial with a charity component.

The NRL will also consider the player’s standing in the game and whether they have “had off-field and integrity issues” before giving its approval.

Manly have been wearing the salary cap pain from Stewart and Matai’s departure this year, carrying the final year of their salaries on the cap despite the fact neither player has taken the field.

Coincidentally, Sea Eagles fans will be given the chance to say goodbye to Stewart at Saturday’s blockbuster final round clash against Penrith at Brookvale.

Club stalwart Matt Ballin will also be in attendance, although Matai won’t because of family commitments.

Barrett has no doubt Manly fans would have turned up in droves to honour their former greats if the club had been made aware of the loophole being offered to Smith and Thurston.

“It would have been nice for us to be able to do that for a Matai, a Snake or a Lyon,” Barrett said.

“It doesn’t seem like a level playing field to me. I am sure our administration will want clarification on how this is possible.”

One rival club boss revealed how there was genuine shock recently when Melbourne and North Queensland agitated for a lower salary cap during negotiations with the NRL.

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media_cameraBrett Stewart celebrates a try with Steve Matai. Pic Brett Costello
The timing is also not a good look for Smith, given he is the Rugby League Players’ Association’s general president and has been a vocal critic of the NRL during the ongoing pay dispute.

“If you play 15 years and 350 games and JT’s played about 300 and it’s got the OK by the NRL good luck to them,” Storm coach Craig Bellamy said.

“It’s out of my hands but to me it’s pretty hard to begrudge those guys after what they’ve done for the game.”

Clubs could potentially pay less for veteran players in their final years but top up the money with “testimonial” earnings, that would not be included in the cap however the NRL says a club must already be paying a player “market value” before they’d agree to a testimonial game.

Now the match for Smith and Thurston has been revealed, South Sydney could do the same for John Sutton once they sign him for next year while Brisbane could do likewise for Sam Thaiday, another tremendous one-club servants.
 
.....The NRL claims it started to formulated the policy a year ago but clubs were not made aware of the decision......

.....One rival club boss revealed how there was genuine shock recently when Melbourne and North Queensland agitated for a lower salary cap during negotiations with the NRL.....

Mmmm, it would appear 2 clubs were made aware of the decision - and no doubt contributed to the 'formulation'.
 
Sometimes I read the rort stuff on here, or even post it myself, about fixes and favouritism, and then think nah that can't be happening.
Then this select favouritism comes along and removes all doubt.
A far better administration has previously ended testimonials because it messed with the cap.
Now Turdburger's "National Rort League" just can't help itself.
I'm sure one for Tim Mannah is just around the corner knowing toddles undying love for cap cheats from the west.
Complete joke.
 
Sometimes I read the rort stuff on here, or even post it myself, about fixes and favouritism, and then think nah that can't be happening.
Then this select favouritism comes along and removes all doubt.
A far better administration has previously ended testimonials because it messed with the cap.
Now Turdburger's "National Rort League" just can't help itself.
I'm sure one for Tim Mannah is just around the corner knowing toddles undying love for cap cheats from the west.
Complete joke.
The disturbing thing is that the 'removes all doubt' has occurred on practically a weekly basis all this year. The 'owners' of the entertainment clearly have unequivocal ideas about the attention span, amongst other things, of the average fan, and those ideas are in no way complimentary.
 
The disturbing thing is that the 'removes all doubt' has occurred on practically a weekly basis all this year. The 'owners' of the entertainment clearly have unequivocal ideas about the attention span, amongst other things, of the average fan, and those ideas are in no way complimentary.
Nailed it !!
I can't wait for his indignant retraction when he has to dismantle his stupid idea...
 
From today's Telegraph.

MANLY are one of several clubs furious at the NRL about being kept in the dark over being able to stage a salary cap-exempt testimonial game like the one being offered to Cameron Smith and Johnathan Thurston.

The NRL claims it started to formulated the policy a year ago but clubs were not made aware of the decision.

Sea Eagles coach Trent Barrett said if they were aware of the loophole, they would have explored the possibility of giving club favourites Brett Stewart, Jamie Lyon and Steve Matai a testimonial game.

Rival clubs were furious following revelations in The Daily Telegraph that NRL boss Todd Greenberg has endorsed a deal that will allow Melbourne and North Queensland to exploit next year’s salary cap by a combined $1.5 million.

In what is seen as another blatant salary cap inconsistency, a trial is being planned at Suncorp Stadium in February where Smith and Thurston, two of the game’s highest paid players, will pocket all gate takings, sponsorship, merchandise and potential TV rights.

TESTIMONIAL: The $1.5 cap loophole for Smith, Thurston

TAUPAU: It’s a grand final for us

952077316d0dec63b8abb3836465b201

media_cameraJamie Lyon, Brett Stewart and Steve Matai celebrate with the premiership trophy after winning the 2011 NRL Grand Final.
Sharks coach Shane Flanagan said the revelations opened up “a can of worms” but the NRL responded by saying it had formulated guidelines to outline who would be eligible for a testimonial game — a player must have been at a club for at least 10 consecutive years, racked up 250 NRL appearances, already be contracted for the season of the testimonial game which must be a trial with a charity component.

The NRL will also consider the player’s standing in the game and whether they have “had off-field and integrity issues” before giving its approval.

Manly have been wearing the salary cap pain from Stewart and Matai’s departure this year, carrying the final year of their salaries on the cap despite the fact neither player has taken the field.

Coincidentally, Sea Eagles fans will be given the chance to say goodbye to Stewart at Saturday’s blockbuster final round clash against Penrith at Brookvale.

Club stalwart Matt Ballin will also be in attendance, although Matai won’t because of family commitments.

Barrett has no doubt Manly fans would have turned up in droves to honour their former greats if the club had been made aware of the loophole being offered to Smith and Thurston.

“It would have been nice for us to be able to do that for a Matai, a Snake or a Lyon,” Barrett said.

“It doesn’t seem like a level playing field to me. I am sure our administration will want clarification on how this is possible.”

One rival club boss revealed how there was genuine shock recently when Melbourne and North Queensland agitated for a lower salary cap during negotiations with the NRL.

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media_cameraBrett Stewart celebrates a try with Steve Matai. Pic Brett Costello
The timing is also not a good look for Smith, given he is the Rugby League Players’ Association’s general president and has been a vocal critic of the NRL during the ongoing pay dispute.

“If you play 15 years and 350 games and JT’s played about 300 and it’s got the OK by the NRL good luck to them,” Storm coach Craig Bellamy said.

“It’s out of my hands but to me it’s pretty hard to begrudge those guys after what they’ve done for the game.”

Clubs could potentially pay less for veteran players in their final years but top up the money with “testimonial” earnings, that would not be included in the cap however the NRL says a club must already be paying a player “market value” before they’d agree to a testimonial game.

Now the match for Smith and Thurston has been revealed, South Sydney could do the same for John Sutton once they sign him for next year while Brisbane could do likewise for Sam Thaiday, another tremendous one-club servants.

Forget investigating Manly for salary cap beaches, it's the NRL that needs investigating!

Seriously, i dont think its not a level playing field. We had Penrith stuggling to make the top 8 and after the ref strewed Manly their now in the top 8. Can't prove it but i honestly think its a numbers games designed for the NRL to determine who gets in and whos out. Maximising profits!
 
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The more they try to explain this blatant favoritism, the worse it looks. On the one hand, the testimonial has to have a "charity component" but elsewhere it says that scam and thurston will pocket everything. It's says the NRL will consider any "integrity issues" in a players career before agreeing - well how about Coffs Harbour and numerous drunken escapades? How about blatant salary cap rorting? How about a career built on trying to maim opponents? What about the timing of this in relation to salary cap negotiations?
Yep.
A seriously big name player mentioned had a massive role in Coffs Harbour. I learned this from a doggies supporter friend. Apologies for having a doggies supporter friend - it's just part of accepting people regardless of their issues.😀
That player was also involved in a Red Bull/Stillnox incident.
As for Captain Scam...hmmm, I wonder if cap rorting is an integrity violation? Oh that's right, poor little Cameron had no idea he was getting paid extra and was completely surprised about the yacht, ferrari and extra hundreds of thousands in his account.
Meanwhile the rugby league world continues to tell us how smart Smith is.
A little conflicting I do think.
The people who run our game are just arseholes - that's not a think, that's a know!
Go Manly!
 
The NRL is so poorly run with conflicting decisions made on the run.

The salary cap is a prime example: third party concessions, marquee player allowance, motor vehicle allowance, etc.
Set the figure at a flat $X.
No discounts or allowances, this would make it more transparent. Everyone having the same amount to work with.
Clubs like the Broncos, Storm & the Rosters would be brought back to the field especially in regards to the third party rort.
 
Forget investigating Manly for salary cap beaches, it's the NRL that needs investigating!

Seriously, i dont think its not a level playing field. We had Penrith stuggling to make the top 8 and after the ref strewed Manly their now in the top 8. Can't prove it but i honestly think its a numbers games designed for the NRL to determine who gets in and whos out. Maximising profits!
Yep.
Forget clubs and individuals, this sport needs a massive Royal commission type investigation from the very top.
 
I never supported a break away super league .... just greed. But I would lead the lynch mob to fukk and burn this lot of NRL ratbags
Funny you say that Woodsie (or not that surprising actually). I literally had the same comment re supporting any break away competition that was floated, typed out and ready to post. Just hadnt posted it yet. Start the thing now. This is the worst the NRL has ever been run, hands down.
 

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