Well we are last on the table. Things have gotten pretty bad and there are so many rumours and innuendo flying about i don't know what to believe. What i want to know is are the players committed? They certainly don't seem to be if you take on field efforts at face value but there are also many other factors to consider at the moment (injuries etc.). A few people were posting after the Albury game about players partying way past the appropriate point following the game and that is very disheartening if true. What I'm asking is does anybody have any reliable information or first hand experiences that would shed light on where the player's heads are at? This thread may give people a chance to sort the bull from the facts and form an opinion on where to go from here. I support Toovey at this point and I know there is no need for more negativity on this forum but for me, if the players have lost interest and do not have a drive to win anymore then that falls squarely on him. In saying that there are other factors that are obviously out of his control.