1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

Desmond on the outer with the mutts in the Kennel.

Discussion in 'Rugby League Forum' started by Top End Eagle, May 2, 2016.

  1. Top End Eagle

    Top End Eagle Well-Known Member

    Ratings:
    +1,085 /45
    So I refuse to pay for the daily astonished online and usually any news about Manly from them I can find here after a while - but I saw a headline about Terry Lamb saying Des doesn't get the Bulldogs culture yada yada....

    So I looked at the Kennel to see if I could find it there. The members are rabid.

    A lot of the complaints will seem familia to some of us here-

    T Rex and his lack of effort.

    Des only playing one bench player for five minutes at the end of a game.

    Des never changing the line up or dropping players.

    Public holiday here so I had a bit of time for a look and will admit I found it amusing.
     
  2. SeaEagleRock8

    SeaEagleRock8 Sea Eagle Lach Staff Member Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

    12,659
    3,542
    Ratings:
    +6,911 /125
    If he doesn't get the Dogs culture, that is to his eternal credit.
     
    • Agree x 5
    • Funny x 4
    • Clever x 2
    • Like x 1
    • Winner x 1
    • Chip and Chase

      Chip and Chase True Supporter Staff Member Administrator Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

      12,806
      3,176
      Ratings:
      +6,293 /44
      He got hammered on here for the exact same issues, so nothing's changed - except he delivered 2 premierships here and nada there.
       
      • Agree Agree x 2
      • Funny Funny x 1
      • lsz

        lsz Well-Known Member Staff Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

        6,642
        1,737
        Ratings:
        +3,687 /66
        I refuse to believe that a footy forum can jump to conclusions and judge a coach / organisation rashly
         
        • Funny Funny x 11
        • Like Like x 2
        • Winner Winner x 2
        • Agree Agree x 1
        • EagleFromMay1967

          EagleFromMay1967 In bed before the room got dark.

          Blue Mountains these days
          Ratings:
          +1,234 /44
          He'll come back to MWSE someday. Its just a question of when. I guess after he has done a couple more years over there. Barrett will be well aware that it is a results driven business, and there will ALREADY have been conversations between BOZO, Penn and De$.
           
          • Dislike Dislike x 1
          • Agree Agree x 1
          • Disagree Disagree x 1
          • Top End Eagle

            Top End Eagle Well-Known Member

            Ratings:
            +1,085 /45
            I just thought it was an interesting contrast to the climate of this site, most here are being pretty accomodating and understanding with Baz and he replaced a club legend.

            Time will tell though.
             
            • Agree Agree x 1
            • c eagle

              c eagle Well-Known Member

              818
              260
              Ratings:
              +452 /52
              I'd take him back in a heart beat
               
              • Agree Agree x 4
              • Woodsie

                Woodsie played strong, done good.

                Ratings:
                +5,215 /108
                Just another one of my random thoughts. I don't bet on football, so whilst I am emotionally invested in Manly's results, I am not financially invested.

                Observing the proliferation of betting sites and ads, I can only surmise that the number of people that do bet is on the increase.

                Is it the loss of a few quid that increases the amount of critisism leveled at coaches and players?
                 
                • Like Like x 2
                • Ralphie

                  Ralphie Well-Known Member Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

                  Bredbo
                  Ratings:
                  +2,093 /231
                  Hasler left here and went to a new club with a bunch of underachieving players and took them to a GF in year one. He took them to another GF in year 3 and has played Finals footy every season since going there. Compare their roster to ours and ask would you swap -
                  DCE for MBye
                  Parcel for Lichaa
                  Matai for Kerrod Holland
                  Killer for Josh Morris
                  Tom Turbo for Curtis Rona
                  Jake Turbo for Greg Eastwood
                  Snake for Will Hopoate
                  Dylan Walker for Josh Reynolds
                  Brenton Lawrence for T-Rex

                  I said no to all of the above, which means of the 17 players in the teams I think more than half of ours (9 in Total) are better than theirs. The difference between the two teams is the coach.
                   
                  • Agree Agree x 6
                  • Winner Winner x 1
                  • Clever Clever x 1
                  • Woodsie

                    Woodsie played strong, done good.

                    Ratings:
                    +5,215 /108
                    @Ralphie I agree Des is a good coach, but you have to admit their forward pack is underachieving.
                     
                    • Agree Agree x 3
                      Last edited: May 2, 2016
                    • Top End Eagle

                      Top End Eagle Well-Known Member

                      Ratings:
                      +1,085 /45
                      Just as long as we never take Josh Reynolds over any of our players.
                       
                      • Agree Agree x 4
                      • Pablo

                        Pablo Well-Known Member Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

                        Ratings:
                        +1,359 /16
                        They've taken the passing thing too far. They seem reluctant to tuck it under the arm and get belted and more interested in a fancy off load.
                         
                        • Agree Agree x 1
                        • EagleFromMay1967

                          EagleFromMay1967 In bed before the room got dark.

                          Blue Mountains these days
                          Ratings:
                          +1,234 /44
                          Further to this, there is already a widely known 'truce' between the two clubs (negotiated by Des and Bozo) NOT to poach the players of the other team. To my knowledge the truce is still in force.
                           
                          • Informative Informative x 1
                          • The Who

                            The Who Well-Known Member

                            7,322
                            2,244
                            Mona Vale
                            Ratings:
                            +4,936 /104
                            On the other hand . . .
                            All Manly premierships have been won under a coach who has played for Manly so, presumably, there is a club culture that outsiders may not understand or appreciate.
                            Regarding the Dogs' Kultya: Generally speaking they were a club with strong depth traditionally, and used a lot of juniors in their grade sides. Despicable and Cleal seem to have adopted the Manly philosophy "If he's a local he's never as good as an import", and the Dogs' now have few few locals in their top team (one I believe, but I stand to be corrected).
                            So, I get what Lambrain is trying to enunciate.
                             
                            • Like Like x 1
                            • Loobs

                              Loobs I am not really Scott Penn Premium Member

                              5,934
                              1,952
                              Ratings:
                              +6,685 /266
                              Des' record was a product of time and back ended contracts that unfortunately blew up for Tooves.

                              Baz gets a clean slate with a better financially managed roster (DCE arguable, the rest hopefully). He'll most likely have similar talent from within but as someone else mentioned on another thread - Des took Manly to the mighty position of 13th in year one. It was a slow burn till they hit their straps. All the results driven business crap people on here like to mention non stop - would you have sacked Des for that..?

                              So really the question is who on the forum is going to give Barrett 3 odd years..? In the era of the internet hot take? Or did I just answer my own question?
                               
                              • Like Like x 2
                              • Winner Winner x 1
                              • Ralphie

                                Ralphie Well-Known Member Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

                                Bredbo
                                Ratings:
                                +2,093 /231
                                Yes, there's no doubt their forward pack is underachieving at the moment, but I bet they aren't come September and I bet they will be thereabouts whilst we are on Mad Monday.
                                 
                                • Agree Agree x 4
                                • HoldenV8

                                  HoldenV8 Well-Known Member

                                  6,628
                                  1,879
                                  Adelaide
                                  Ratings:
                                  +6,921 /129
                                  Des on the outer with the mutts in the kennel.....well knock me over with a Sea Eagles feather lol. That mob would boo Santa Claus because he wears red and white.
                                   
                                  • Funny Funny x 1
                                  • bones

                                    bones Bones Knows Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

                                    8,370
                                    5,100
                                    Ratings:
                                    +9,036 /102
                                    Barrett has a much stronger roster this year than what Des had in his first year. He has a much better roster than what Tooves had last year, but the results are similar.
                                     
                                    • Agree Agree x 5
                                      Last edited: May 2, 2016
                                    • HoldenV8

                                      HoldenV8 Well-Known Member

                                      6,628
                                      1,879
                                      Adelaide
                                      Ratings:
                                      +6,921 /129
                                      We finished 13th in Des' first year as coach.....and to be fair we've been hit by mass injuries again like last year.
                                       
                                      • Agree Agree x 1
                                      • ricardo

                                        ricardo Well-Known Member

                                        792
                                        213
                                        Ratings:
                                        +1,151 /70
                                        While I have been critical of Trents preparation I have admired his ability to recognise mistakes (Green for eg).

                                        Yes he is learning on the job, but I'm behind him to bring our team back to relevance in the coming months.

                                        No Des comeback this year
                                         
                                        • Like Like x 1

                                        Share This Page