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[Resurrected] DCE... Myth or legend?

jbb/james

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Mate you are entitled to your opinion, as am I. Your perspective is that you are happy with the way he is playing. My perspective is that I'm not happy with the way he can't control a game and the lack of a decent kicking game. I also don't buy into all these excuses. If the backs aren't scoring tries then could it be because the playmakers can't set them up ? Wingers aren't getting good ball ?? perhaps it's not getting there quick enough ? How many tries from kicks this year for us ?? How many repeat sets from forced dropouts ? If our forwards are scoring more tries then someone is making a decision that going through the middle is our plan - if that's not our playmaker and Captain then who is running the show out there ? I haven't gone through stats, but I'd be interested to know what stats he is dominating compared to his peers - I reckon probably only 40/20's at a guess.

Also have a look around the NRL and see how many inexperienced halves are running around at the moment, he's not the only senior playmaker trying to ply his trade with a junior partner. So Tommy is so important to our team that the Australian halfback can't win a game without riding his coat tails ? Answer me this, who is charged with running the team out there on the field ? who sets the structures ? who runs the plays ? who has to make the most of what we have ?? who makes the decisions ? It's not all his fault, but given he is the Captain and playmaker he has to shoulder a larger burden than the rest of the side. It IS on him, that's his job. Cust is close to outplaying him at the moment.

Just because I criticise the guy doesn't mean I don't think he can't play. Clearly he can, but it's his lack of consistency that is killing us. I'm not looking for a scapegoat, I'm just dumbfounded about turning up here every time after a loss and seeing the excuses trotted out. They are endless, I've never known a player to get cut so much slack. If you are happy with his contribution then great. I'm not talking effort, I'm talking actual contribution towards us competing in games. Leadership, direction, game control, all those things we have been missing of late.

I fully accept I'm swimming against the tide of popular opinion, get told that every time I post in this thread, but in my opinion he is building a legacy of being a flat track bully. Sure there will be a game in the next few weeks where we carve it up and he looks a million dollars, but then there will be some more where we don't and he doesn't. You are happy to accept that, I think he can do better. Do you think if they picked the Australian side today that he would be wearing the 7 ??

Anyway, we can't win this comp without him playing his best and utilising his full skill set, so let's hope whatever has to occur to make that happen occurs soon. If he plays well I'm more than happy to acknowledge it, but equally I'm not going to blow smoke up his nether regions when he runs around like a headless chook.
If consistency is what your looking for you will find it. Every time someone articulates why dCE is not performing, with examples and reasoning, the cheer squad scroll past and look for someone who supports there view

I agree wholeheartedly with you though. Nice effort trying to point it out though. while its great to chat manly id suggest you would be a good footy chat also.

As for me your view is not polarising but accurate and tbh , you and a few others keep me sane.
 

BOZO

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Yeah Na he's not the man to take us to a GF
DCE has won at the highest level . For his Country his State and his Sea eagles
He has won a Grand final for Manly and he will win another one
The Legend Lives On !!!
 

davohan123

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He has won a Grand final for Manly and he will win another one !
Plus add jake and Tom to that list.

whenever it happens hope I am alive to witness it live going to be one sweet day.
 

BOZO

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I love your one eyed Manly support Bozo ... but he was a part of a great team that won that GF he didn't win it for us
Lets put things in perspective ...
It takes great players to make a great team and DCE was one of the great players feathered friend .
 

nightster

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Lets put things in perspective ...
It takes great players to make a great team and DCE was one of the great players feathered friend .
yes he was part and surrounded by those greats he performed .... most half decent halves would have ... imho
 

BOZO

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yes he was part and surrounded by those greats he performed .... most half decent halves would have ... imho
Decent halves play NRL level
Great halves like DCE represent their Country and their State
 

nightster

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Descent halves play NRL level
Great halves like DCE represent their Country and their State
Yes .... imho he has been lucky in his rep selections .... don't get me wrong as a feathered friend I was happy for him ... and us ... but he has proven to be radically inconsistent and reliant on a a great 5/8 and 9 to help him perform
 

BOZO

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Yes .... imho he has been lucky in his rep selections .... don't get me wrong as a feathered friend I was happy for him ... and us ... but he has proven to be radically inconsistent and reliant on a a great 5/8 and 9 to help him perform
Lets put things in perspective feathered friend
You say DCE has been lucky in his rep Selections ???
Lady luck only strikes once and you can only fluke things once
DCE has played for his country since 2011 for a total of 16 times
and his State since 2013 for a total of 10 times
No class here . Just pure Class
 

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