Well that's my main worry about him. Mistake with peptides, perhaps, but then he snuck around to avoid 'paying the price' of his suspension, that's another mistake. And then he lied about that. Mistake...
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The jury maybe out but I think it’s a little unfair to be too critical of a lot of fringe players given the last two seasons have been ruined due to Covid and many of those players haven’t had a chance to develop their game in the lower grades.The problem for the Manly fringe players is that they either go back to Blacktown and the team is a shambles or there’s different blokes in important positions every week.Or they are spared the Blacktown trip and miss a week or two not playing at all because Des would rather the 18&19th men to not play at all than at Blacktown
How did the Change work out when we moved on from Baz ?
We saw The same improvement as the Dogs did when they moved him on as well
yes but the common denominator is Barret just aint any good ,not that I think Hasler should be moved on either
Change is not made just for the sake of it but for the sake of improvement
As for your cowboys example the 2022 team had changes made to their 2021 underperforming team and an injection of an experienced premiership winning halfback Townsand . They released the under performing Esan Marsters and brought in Hiku . They released their 5/8 clifford and replaced him with Deardon. Also Jeremiah Nanai the up and coming young player was a refreshing and dynamic change
Change was needed and the end results paid off . The Cowbots are Finals Bound !!!
The South Sydney Rabbits also made a change . The wrong change of getting rid of their Captain and play maker Reynonds and they have not been the dominant team they were when they made the grand final last year .
As for your Tom Turbo and Latrell and Teddy argument
All good players make a difference to a team but all good teams can step up without their star players as Penrith were missing not one but three of their elite players in their captain and star halfback Cleary their star 5/8 Luai and their star second rower Kikau and defeated the raiders in Canberra
As for the head coach , If he does not have the right cattle he wont have success
The moral of the story
Change does make a difference and every one lives and dies by the changes they make in their lives
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That is right feathered friend . Barret was not any good but you must admit Des was a change for the better .
Our next change for the better is not our coach . The change is to get better players to improve our team .
It would be great if des evolved in his approach... even a solid assistant with new ideas would be great, however being manly, firstly we wouldn't pay the $ & secondly des wouldn't listen
"If your not cheating your not winning" 😃
The only thing that Des needs is an addition of players that can play with the same winning resilience as he did and we will win another grand final
Well who is in charge or retention and recruitment to ensure we gain these additions?
Re Ben until he gets a decent run in first grade in the same position for a few weeks I am not sure anyone can judge (although that might be the judge that he can not get a run)
As for change there is a delicate balance. I have banged on about it before but Ben Darwin does some pretty good stuff about stability and what that does for a team
www.theguardian.com
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As for change there is a delicate balance. I have banged on about it before but Ben Darwin does some pretty good stuff about stability and what that does for a team
Ben Darwin's theory of sport evolution: familiarity breeds success | Robert Kitson
Analysis by the ex-Wallaby’s company shows the benefits of long-term team stability and could transform our view of sport
Darwin's theory of sporting evolution
Ben Darwin led the line for the Wallabies. Now he's using data to prove that sporting authorities have lost their way.
I am not sure Des is given the same authority as he had the last time he coached us to a winning grand final
Darwin Theory Perspective .....Re Ben until he gets a decent run in first grade in the same position for a few weeks I am not sure anyone can judge (although that might be the judge that he can not get a run)
As for change there is a delicate balance. I have banged on about it before but Ben Darwin does some pretty good stuff about stability and what that does for a team
Ben Darwin's theory of sport evolution: familiarity breeds success | Robert Kitson
Analysis by the ex-Wallaby’s company shows the benefits of long-term team stability and could transform our view of sport
Darwin's theory of sporting evolution
Ben Darwin led the line for the Wallabies. Now he's using data to prove that sporting authorities have lost their way.
Ben Darwin
The thing is though..... Premiership winning success only applies with certain players that have what it takes and are able to step up and take you to the top
AS you can only squeeze so much juice from each orange
And you cannot turn a donkey into a thoroughbred
The moral of the story ...
Some players have their limits and are limited to what they can acheive
The Great Achievers
Our benchmark of Excellence and
Our Legendary Dual premiership winning team 1972 and 1973
Haha credit for putting that old Bush chestnut up, always makes me laugh.
My point is we as a club haven’t exactly had our hands clean, as I previously stated. Personally feel he has done enough. I mean do you just want to punish him forever? People aren’t perfect, many make mistakes only to come back and redeem themselves.
Playing for a club like Manly that has been made great by Legendary premiership Grand final and finals winning players is a hard act to follow
We have seen such extraordinary Centres and Back rowers in our Clubs Magnificent Era of Greatness
The Veteran Parker has made his NRL debut in 2016 .Before he got injured in the 7 games he played.
The Manly official stat list below show he has contributed to no line breaks , no try assists and no tries . He does try hard but is fruitless in attack
. To his credit he is a competent defended but his lack of speed can also be a liability against faster quality opposition .
Ben who is in his first NRL Year hopefully can progress to more than he has shown
Brad Parker
The NRL profile of Brad Parker including career statistics, season stats, games, tries, goals, tackles and fantasy scores.
www.seaeagles.com.au
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No I don't want to punish him, just prefer we don't hire him to guide our young footy players. As I said earlier he does a decent job on TV. Some club will hire him eventually though.
Not sure about our succession plan. Monas? I wish Glenn Stewart was interested, always thought he looked like a future coach somehow.
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