2025 recruitment & retention

Sitting back and b*tching about the personal lives, and mistakes made, of our young quasi-celebrities is... some misguided projection of their own personal flaws.
Nah, I dont need to rough up women because I am a real man... no respect for pieces of sh*t that do feel the need to... never an excuse, women beaters are dirt...

We are in the business of watching athletes compete. Winner takes all. Nothing else matters in this dodomain
Here in lies the problem - it is just a game... the NRL wont allow punch-ons because of the violence it projects but they will register contracts for covicted DV perpetrators if they are good enough at a ball game - pathetic...

a man or men who will turn his/their back to violence against women is no man... stand up, do something...
 
Nah, I dont need to rough up women because I am a real man

a man or men who will turn his/their back to violence against women is no man... stand up, do something...
Do you think maybe our young boys are brought up with the wrong message? Or is it just inevitable that some men are pieces of ***, while the rest of us are real men.
(Probably not really a recruitment thread topic to delve into, but an important issue to discuss)(one day)
 
Do you think maybe our young boys are brought up with the wrong message? Or is it just inevitable that some men are pieces of ***, while the rest of us are real men.
(Probably not really a recruitment thread topic to delve into, but an important issue to discuss)(one day)
Imo... a bit of ying and a bit of yang SER8... some kids have a ****ty home environment from the get go and want to take it out on the world - women in their lives just get caught up in the whirlwind of violence...
Some can have happy home lives and still end up kicking their dogs and slapping their women because of a sense of entitlement/ownership...

Edit: I probably need to throw in the third point - "social" drugs... cocaine is pretty much alcohol to this generation and the crack pipe is the choice of those that cant afford coke - they may be "social", but they burn brains by enhancing paranoia and reducing the ability to make rational choices - such as don't beat your missus up because she made you feel bad you dog c*nt...

The one thing I know is that weak a*se men that have seen DV violence and chose to say/do nothing are a large part of the reason that we have such an absolutely appalling level of DV-related deaths in Australia atm - 1 women killed every 11 days!.... men need to stand up and get back to being real men that protect women...

handing ridiculous contracts to convicted DV-perpetrators because they are good footy players perpetuates the idea that "small-scale" DV is "no big deal" and we should all just "play on"...

It p*sses me off but, anyway, rant over...
 
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Retention and Recruitment is harder than most people on here think, I mean do you honestly think that just because you have the "money" or "desire" to get a player to your club then thats enough to make it happen??

FIRSTLY: Every player has a club they are already associated with so they ALREADY have a link or connection to that club, there is your first hurdle,
as "Quality" players who are looked after by that club they are not going anywhere...SIMPLE...
Look at the Trjbojevic's, DCE etc and same would go for players like Cleary, Martin, Hughes, Munster etc, These top quality players only leave if there is an issue with the club or are ready for retirement and looking to get a "better deal" for their last contract.

SECOND: They all have managers and the managers have a bigger say in where players actually go if they are indeed looking to leave their current club, and these managers either have "favoured"clubs or "favoured" relationships with certain people at certain clubs, SO no matter what you throw at them they are not even looking, they may use your club to "up the value" or "Time pressure" another club but thats all it is.

THIRD: Is the player themselves and if they would even look at playing at your club, and this would come down to location, Coaching, Facilities and even Fan bases.
A player wanting to play in Queensland will more than likely not sign with the Warriors, and other players who have personal issue with members of coaching staff would not sign at that club.

The reason Ive written this post is because there is NO MAGIC BULLET, all clubs are in the same position, they all have a "core" group of players, they all have a couple of marquee players and they all have some "juniors" that came through their system or came to grade with that club.
and no matter how much hoping or how much whinging we do thats the system.
Don't blame the club for not getting certain players, because they are not available or Manly was never an option to them regardless of what the media talk is.

So whats the solution?
the clubs main and only hope is its administration, and how that administration sets up the pathways system, The best way to get top talent into your core group is through the juniors, look at every teams past success and this will be a common theme.
Its then up to management to nurture and secure those juniors as well as manage the marquee contracts and add "roster fillers" around the group to meet the NRL salary cap rules.
and thats the second part of building a premiership winning team, getting the right "roster fillers" at the right prices to ADD value to the team , not just add "A Number".

Part of our problem is we have had too much administrative changes in the past decade and no real backbone when it came to managing the salary cap and contracts,
I'm hoping Mestrov gets to hang around for a long stint and I'm pretty confident he will turn it around, he's already shown he is not scared to make the hard calls and hes also pretty shrewd when it comes to negotiating and seems to put the club first.
Stop it! Stop making sense!
 
Yet,you have someone like Ola who is close to them who has gone the other way completely.
When the issues with the Fainu clan went down I thought he might be lost to us,he was close to the family and was being accused of gang affiliation etc ..
He has become his own man,in a serious relationship,a dad and a devoted family man.
He is becoming a leader and may go down in Manly history at the end of his career as one of the best second rowers to have played for us.
Become my favourite player along with Taniela.
 
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Nah, I dont need to rough up women because I am a real man... no respect for pieces of sh*t that do feel the need to... never an excuse, women beaters are dirt...


Here in lies the problem - it is just a game... the NRL wont allow punch-ons because of the violence it projects but they will register contracts for covicted DV perpetrators if they are good enough at a ball game - pathetic...

a man or men who will turn his/their back to violence against women is no man... stand up, do something...
Spot on brother
 
Do you think maybe our young boys are brought up with the wrong message? Or is it just inevitable that some men are pieces of ***, while the rest of us are real men.
(Probably not really a recruitment thread topic to delve into, but an important issue to discuss)(one day)
I don't think most kids today are taught good behaviour and self control, too many modern day parents free range their kids and set no boundaries, one of my granddaughters and her husband are guilty of this and it's very unpleasant at times when they come around because the kids run riot and it drives me nuts, not believing in restrictions is setting the stage for a multitude of problems when they become adults and are faced with responsibilities, it's a frightening prospect
 
I don't think most kids today are taught good behaviour and self control, too many modern day parents free range their kids and set no boundaries, one of my granddaughters and her husband are guilty of this and it's very unpleasant at times when they come around because the kids run riot and it drives me nuts, not believing in restrictions is setting the stage for a multitude of problems when they become adults and are faced with responsibilities, it's a frightening prospect
The moral of your story is spare the rod and you spoil the child
No discipline
No Boundaries
No Accountability
No Respect
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Yet,you have someone like Ola who is close to them who has gone the other way completely.
When the issues with the Fainu clan went down I thought he might be lost to us,he was close to the family and was being accused of gang affiliation etc ..
He has become his own man,in a serious relationship,a dad and a devoted family man.
He has becoming a leader and may go down in Manly history at the end of his career as one of the best second rowers to have played for us.
Become my favourite player along with Taniela.
Yeah I was super impressed when a poster commented that Guac offered to train with the NSW squad still when told he was dropped... if that us true then it speaks very well to both his attitude and character...

or, maybe, he just wants to "hang out with the gang"🤣🤣🤣
 
Yeah I was super impressed when a poster commented that Guac offered to train with the NSW squad still when told he was dropped... if that us true then it speaks very well to both his attitude and character...

or, maybe, he just wants to "hang out with the gang"🤣🤣🤣

He also reached out to Mitch Barnett to congratulate him on making the team. He is in the leadership group and will be a captain one day. Possibly the next if DCE plays for a couple more years.
 
Yeah I was super impressed when a poster commented that Guac offered to train with the NSW squad still when told he was dropped... if that us true then it speaks very well to both his attitude and character...

or, maybe, he just wants to "hang out with the gang"🤣🤣🤣
The boys in blue 😉
 
I expect us to make a few moves between now and next year. With Schuster and Lawton moving on and guys like Lodge and Waddell yet to re-sign, we are definitely short some backrowers and at least one middle.

Unfortunately Lawton has had one of his best years and offered a lot of utility value. Something we don’t have in next year’s squad.

I’d like to see us sign an up and coming backrower, an NRL quality backrower, a utility, and an NRL quality front rower.

I’d be happy if Waddell was one of those slots, but the others probably need to come from elsewhere
 
Yet,you have someone like Ola who is close to them who has gone the other way completely.
When the issues with the Fainu clan went down I thought he might be lost to us,he was close to the family and was being accused of gang affiliation etc ..
He has become his own man,in a serious relationship,a dad and a devoted family man.
He is becoming a leader and may go down in Manly history at the end of his career as one of the best second rowers to have played for us.
Become my favourite player along with Taniela.
I think when he threw the gang sign when he scored a try in the game immediately after Manase was found guilty, someone might have had a word with him & he listened, because he’s definitely turned into the person you’ve described.

I saw him (along with Saab, Turbos x 3, Sipley & Snake) at the Wharf bar last year on a Friday night when one of the women’s FIFA World Cup matches was on & there were heaps of Swedes there supporting Sweden, & they all kept a low profile at the back while the game was on & were all happy to have photos taken with various people’s kids who were there for the soccer. A very respectful & respectable bunch of fellas, Ola & Saab especially so.

In fact, the only one who was a bit loose was Snake 😂 even then he was very well behaved.
 
……. But the brothers went to church!
There is a touch of hypocrisy in all of us perspective

I know some brothers that go to the gym and when they come out they eat high calorie artery clogging fattening fast food , and wash it down with high sugary soft drinks

It is the same for some of the ones that go to church and come out like Hypocrites instead of saints

Then you have some overweight coaches that are supposed to set the example and inspire their athletes to peak performance .
Can you imagine a fat coach telling one of his players that they were carrying too much weight ?

First of all I want to say that the legendary Premiership Winning Des Hasler is one of my all time favourite Manly Players . Des was an Inspirational Fitness freak
It is so disappointing to see that he let him self go and sad for the consequences to his health
This is really self abuse to let one self go and no respect for their body
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