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2016 forward pack

Discussion in 'Rugby League Forum' started by c eagle, Sep 14, 2015.

  1. c eagle

    c eagle Well-Known Member

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    Guys , with the season over I've looked forward to Next year to see how we are shaping up..... And to be honest I really don't see any real change for us, great backs with no go forward..... Our back row provides no punch.... T red, Jamie , potato,Leary..... Fingers crossed Jamie comes back ok, apart from him the others are plodders that would be lucky to hold down a first grade spot elsewhere.
    I hope I'm wrong but losing Liu,mason and Sao was a mistake these three were our best along with turbo...... At the end of the day you could have a multi million dollar back line but they won't do **** unless you got some forwards holding there own. Fingers crossed we have more troops to be announced.
     
  2. manlyfan76

    manlyfan76 Parra Trolls are the best. Premium Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

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    Myles will be solid at best, maybe a few more off loads than stars or bj or mase.
    I really think we will see a lot of attacking flair and not much of the hard stuff next year. We need an enforcer in the pack.
     
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    • Brookvale2015

      Brookvale2015 Active Member

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      My pack next season:

      8.Myles
      9.Koroisau
      10.Trbojevic
      11.Mateo
      12.Symonds/Brown
      13.Buhrer

      14.Parcell
      15.Lussick
      16.Brown/Symonds
      17.Lawrence/Starling

      Our future in the forwards is bright.
      Bainbridge-second row
      Parker-second row
      Knight-second row, lock, prop
      Demetriou-prop, lock
      Cox-lock

      All these guns yet to make their debut, how exciting is that. Knight is a future second rower in my opinion he is tall and strong like Gavin cooper, runs great lines. Demetriou is our future enforcer, massive meters in under 20s, imagine what he could do with more ball and he breaks tackles, like 40 a game. Next year I see our pack as shown above, but I also expect Demetriou and knight to be pushing for a starting spot. Everyone is saying myles is on the down hill slide but have a look at his origin stats to be making 130 meters and 40 tackles at age 30 is massive he will add so much and I see us challenging for a top 4 spot at least.
       
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      • Ben

        Ben Well-Known Member

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        Reassess after GF
         
      • bob dylan

        bob dylan Well-Known Member Premium Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

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        Looks very ordinary on paper but I would not be surprised if they end up being one of the top packs.
         
      • Fluffy

        Fluffy Well-Known Member

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        No real change sounds good to me. Once our pack was on the park for the second half of the year we won 8 games from our last 12.

        Do that for the full year and we finish on 36 points comfortably in the top 4.
         
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        • Disco

          Disco Well-Known Member

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          Remember Jake is only on the uphill trajectory

          Plus yards from dummy half will help
           
        • c eagle

          c eagle Well-Known Member

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          Lol, yeah ok.... So you think we will go injury free next year..... It's simple our pack is rubbish , and if the club doesn't add so fire power we will get the same rubbish as this year.... Are you seriously happy with potato, Leary and t red as our back row.... Were will the go forward come from ... This is not a go at you just my opinion , I just think you do the same , your going to get the same result. MADDNESS
           
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          • Loobs

            Loobs I am not really Scott Penn Premium Member

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            Maybe wait till the club sends out the first training pics in December I think where Killer looks a few kg's shy of Zorba. I think there are still signings to come, hopefully which address the lack of a true strike forward and then you can make a better assessment of where we stand.

            Really, from the guys we signed, we need Brown for positional cover, Myles for leadership and Lussick to be solid if unspectacular. Expecting more out of those three is wishful thinking.
             
          • Brothers manly

            Brothers manly Active Member

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            Have thought this all along with the signings. Still have not enough firepower in forwards ........simple as that........too small and not enough mongrel.
             
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            • Kiwi Eagle

              Kiwi Eagle Moderator Staff Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

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              Mateo provides a lot better go forward than people realize, was making 120m+ consistently for a while which is fine from a back rower

              I'm picking many people to be surprised by Lussick as well, if people are prepared to have an open mind on him that is. A lot of complaints about a lack of size and aggression, well he fits those 2 factors perfectly. If we can get him firing again he could be really damaging

              There is far too much made of size of the forwards as well IMO. Storm have the week off this week along with the broncos and they are just standard sized packs. Souths and Dogs are 2 of the bigger packs and both could be gone after this weekend
               
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              • Disco

                Disco Well-Known Member

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                Agree 100% some of the best forwards in the game like Bromwich and Matulino are not 120kg 6'6 monsters

                As for Lussick he still has the framework and potential to be top drawer, now he did stagnate at Parra and he may not kick on but i would not rule him out.

                A lot of prop come on late in their 20s
                 
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                • Loobs

                  Loobs I am not really Scott Penn Premium Member

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                  I'm as big a Mateo fan as there is and yes he makes the metres and takes defenders with him but he can't get up quickly and play the ball to continue that go forward. When he gets tackled it takes him about ten seconds to get up and play the ball which is just too slow. The best outcome with him is when he makes a run, takes a few tacklers with him and pops an offload. If he goes to ground everything stalls and with quicker guys out of dummy half we need speed in the play the ball.
                   
                • Fluffy

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                  Mateo was injured for most of the first half of the season, and Leary also missed something like 8 weeks in the same period. We were also missing Buhrer, BJ JSL and Starling. Once most of them came back we won 8 from 12 so yeah going to get the same result works for me.

                  Even the capless roosters would look very different missing JWH, Moa, Cordiner, Evans, Aubuson from their pack.

                  Feel free to post a pack missing 6 of their players who you think will win the title
                   
                • PONTIAN SEA EAGLE

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                  Starling will be the X factor if he can stay injury free.Looked the goods when he came back.I'd still sign mason to.
                   
                • IQofalimabean

                  IQofalimabean Well-Known Member

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                  8.Myles
                  9.Koroisau or parcell
                  10.Trbojevic
                  11.Mateo
                  12.JSL
                  13.Lussick

                  14.Buhrer
                  15.Lawrence
                  16.Starling
                  17.Goodall

                  We need more props that can also play second row.
                   
                • eaglebuzz

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                  Our signings plus hopefully a better run with injuries will mean that next year's squad will be a lot stronger than this year's. The only position we're weaker in is 5/8, but hopefully someone will step up.
                   
                • Vyssini

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                  I think hooker is our weak spot...
                   
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                  • manlyfan76

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                    Myles was a great back rower in years past, however I think he will be used as a prop. I don't think that on this year's form Lussick will be ahead of Jake, Myles, Jsl and Starling.
                    Bj should be injury free by 2016 and only last year was our best prop and fastest which is in his favour.
                    Not the worst but no big bang either.
                     
                  • maxta

                    maxta Well-Known Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

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                    Mason done OK , made some good hits & set some go forward - fact is , he is on last legs & 2015 was better than 16/17 will be.
                    Lawrence - obviously a serious back injury .... big ?
                    Starling - Many here like him & I get splinters with this bloke - decent NRL player - no better....love his work ethic - especially his cover defence at times but comes up with many fumbles & gets dominated most occasions.
                    Jake is simply a gun & already the forward leader - the best.
                    Myles will add more than most think & has not been part of the winning SOO structure for a decade - will add plenty & take heat off Jake with his experience.
                    Brown back to his preferred backrow with Buhrer also adding to a fast skilled backrow.
                    Still need a tough uncompromising impact forward? - would be perfect
                    Still feel the 2016 pack is better than 2015 already, but only time will tell.
                     
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