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2015 YART

Discussion in 'Rugby League Forum' started by Chip and Chase, Oct 28, 2014.

  1. Chip and Chase

    Chip and Chase True Supporter Staff Member Administrator Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    ** Apologies to Ryan for treading on his territory here **

    Now that some of the uncertainty has been resolved regards roster for next year, what is our best 17 for next season presuming all are fit ??

    1. Snake
    2. Hiku
    3. Killer
    4. Skivvy
    5. Horhay
    6. Foz
    7. DCE
    8. BJ
    9. Matty
    10 Starling
    11. Nami
    12. T-Red
    13. JB

    14. Mason
    15. Mateo
    16. JSL
    17. Horo

    That bench might be a little light on for size, so I wouldn't be unhappy to see one of Horo/JSL/Mateo drop off for a bigger unit depending on who steps up and which backrower is struggling.

    We have the following for forward depth to choose from

    Hasson
    Andrews
    Vave
    MCK
    Sao
    Turbo
    Elephantman
    Tetevano (TBC)
    Leary
    Baker

    and of course Hodges is a chance of a bench spot if we decide to go that path (not something we have done for a few years now so don't know whether that will change). At least it's an option these days.

    I'd happily bracket Blair with either Hiku or Horhay as I don't think we lose anything there in either case. But Horhay at his best is an asset, I think his shoulder injury really hampered him this season so hoping he can regain some of that destructive form from last year. Of course we have Morrisey waiting in the wings as well, so outside back depth not too bad. Centre is probably the only spot we are light on, there is Satini and Williame, but neither have a lot of experience and the jury still out on them. JLJ seemed an adequate short term cover for the halves this year, so we are pretty much OK for any minor interruptions. Long term injury in the backs to anyone of note would be a problem, but what team doesn't face that prospect.

    Out of that list you would expect that only DCE will be an origin certainty so minimal disruption through rep season as well. All in all it looks pretty good for next year as long as we get some much needed punch up the middle. Turbo or Sao might step up in that department with any luck.

    Now that a lot of the off field crap has been sorted with the Penn buyout and the Choc saga drawn to a close you'd like to think it will be happier place next season. That augurs well for a committed and focused player group one would think.

    Looking forward to next year already.
     
  2. Ryan

    Ryan Well-Known Member

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    Nope, I go with:-

    01. Brett Stewart
    02. Jorge Taufua
    03. Steve Matai
    04. Jamie Lyon
    05. Peta Hiku
    06. Kieran Foran
    07. Daly Cherry-Evans
    08. Brenton Lawrence
    09. Matt Ballin
    10. Willie Mason
    11. Faleti Mateo
    12. Tom Symonds
    13. Jamie Buhrer

    14. Dunamis Lui
    15. Jesse Sene-Lefao
    16. Siosaia Vave
    17. Justin Horo

    Impact bench, or what
     
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    • Mavin

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      I like the look of this side I just hope Jorge get's his confidence back in the off season. Also look for Jamil to push hard for a bench spot.
       
    • Chip and Chase

      Chip and Chase True Supporter Staff Member Administrator Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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      @Ryan from what I've seen of Vave he is nothing earth shattering. Starling is as good and is the incumbent, should get first crack in my book. Happy for Vave to prove me wrong, but not on what I've seen to date.

      You could bracket any of our back row options and I don't think we lose much whether any of them start or are benched. It's a pretty good situation. If anything we may lack a little size as our backrowers aren't behemoths, and we do need someone to fill Chocs boots in that middle third as the extra hit up merchant. That's where Lui may step up next year I hope, he is most likely out of that lot in playing style.
       
    • Frank

      Frank Well-Known Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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      Jorge simply can't compete for the high ball. He will continue to be peppered in that area. I really don't see a future for him on the wing. Second row maybe?

      Blair in for either Hiku or Jorge for mine.
       
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      • simon_eagle

        simon_eagle Well-Known Member

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        There are some solid blokes in those two squads :D

        Any chance we'll see the Wolfman in Manly colours again? He would be well down on my preference list, if I'm honest. But interested to know what you guys think?
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        Snake had the same problem early (admit-ably, very early) in his career. It's something that comes with confidence.

        Let's hope he's been working on it throughout the off-season.
         
      • Ryan

        Ryan Well-Known Member

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        Reggies go something like:-

        01. Tom Trbojevic
        02. David Williams
        03. Cheyse Blair
        04. Clinton Gutherson
        05. Brayden Williame
        06. Jack Littlejohn
        07. ??????
        08. James Hasson
        09. Jayden Hodges
        10. Josh Starling
        11. Zane Tetevano
        12. Blake Leary
        13. Michael Chee Kam

        14. Uity Baker
        15. Ligi Sao
        16. Tyson Andrews
        17. Jake Trbojevic

        No excuses for Willow anymore

        EDIT: Missed Jamil Hopoate. Maybe him at 5/8, Littlejohn in the halves
         
      • EagleFromMay1967

        EagleFromMay1967 In bed before the room got dark.

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        the only one i'm having serious trouble with from those two teams is Horo.

        I i cant see the logic of keeping Starling in the starting side, when you have Willy. Sure Starling will be great as soon as Big Willy does his 20 mins and then 10 in the 2nd half.
         
      • Chip and Chase

        Chip and Chase True Supporter Staff Member Administrator Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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        He dislocated his shoulder at the start of the year. If you've ever done that you'll now how hard it is to put your arms up in the air, especially in traffic. He was also wearing a brace to restrict his shoulder movement. Granted he isn't Roy Cazaly under the high ball at the best of times but I'm prepared to cut him some slack given the circumstances. He offers more over Blair in other areas IMO.
         
      • SeaEagle21

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        I think Starling starting would be better as he has a good motor on him. Once the game has settled and he comes off then Mason on to bend the line. Starling is still pretty young for a prop and last season was very error free which is useful at the start of the game. I think Starling will get better with more experience.. But each to their own
         
      • Ryan

        Ryan Well-Known Member

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        I like Starling, but he is a plodder in my opinion. Teams up the top end of the table tend to not have plodders - their unskilled guys are workhorses (like 180 metres a game consistently). The games moves passed the old plodder type of player in my opinion.

        BUT, the last few finals game we played, Starling rode the line aggression and cranky wise. If he was willing to bring that every game, then I'd be happy as. BUT, then that means consistency is the key.

        BTW all, how ****ing GOOD is it to be speaking about footy again ! So refreshing. I'm actually getting the footy itch again, I lost towards the end of this season.
         
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        • globaleagle

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          But he's up there.







          /sorry
           
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          • EagleFromMay1967

            EagleFromMay1967 In bed before the room got dark.

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            :D :exclamation:
             
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            • robbiea

              robbiea Well-Known Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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              TBH ,
              Im not 100% sure Brett will be there..
              Just a hunch...
               
            • Ryan

              Ryan Well-Known Member

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              I'm sure Tom Trbojevic, Clinton Gutherson, Peta Hiku & others could fill the void. If I'm a betting man, with Lyon extending, Matai maybe also doing so soon, I think the playing group will feel a LOT more unified than they have been for some time.

              As much as a pain in the arse Mason is, he's a character, and I bet the likes of bullet and others will love him, and he will kind of galvanise the forwards & team.

              Imagine Mason chirping at Toovey from the sideline....LOLZ
               
            • robbiea

              robbiea Well-Known Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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              Exactly ,no one is irreplaceable.
               
            • Ryan

              Ryan Well-Known Member

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              I think he'll be here champion. I bet Peters and co. are sweet talking him as we speak :) Unless of coarse he'd like to play with his brother at Souths in a swap with Inglis??
               
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              • robbiea

                robbiea Well-Known Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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                I think him & Watmough not turning up for mad monday speaks volumes..
                We will see.
                I hope I'm wrong ,but happy with all 3 replacements if not.
                 
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                • simon64

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                  Can I interest anyone in some DEPTH ?

                  Depth ?

                  For once, it seems like we may actually have some depth.
                   
                • Ralphie

                  Ralphie Well-Known Member Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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                  If I could learn how to search past threads I would be able to show you plenty of similar statements that were made when we signed Starling and Lawrence for that matter.

                  Players come to Manly and improve in leaps & bounds. Vave has been pretty handy at the gummies without being spectacular and that is with a bunch a chumps around him. Mark my words, Vave, Tetavano & Mateo will shine in the Maroon & White.
                   
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