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2011 Premiership side

Discussion in 'Rugby League Forum' started by manlyfan76, Nov 17, 2015.

  1. manlyfan76

    manlyfan76 Parra Trolls are the best. Premium Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

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    With all the changes the only players left from our last Premiership are:
    J.Lyon
    B.Stewart
    S.Matai
    J.Buhrer?
    D.Cherry Evans

    D.Lussick *

    The players left from 2008 (40-0)
    J.Lyon
    B.Stewart
    S.Matai
     
  2. bob dylan

    bob dylan Well-Known Member Premium Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

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    It's been a long drought since our last win.

    We are overdue.
     
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    • sean john

      sean john Bring Back The Biff

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      Would of been 2013 if it wasn't rigged
       
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      • The Who

        The Who Well-Known Member Premium Member

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        Players may leave or retire but we fans stick solid, with never a disagreement....
         
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        • PONTIAN SEA EAGLE

          PONTIAN SEA EAGLE Well-Known Member

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          Agree 2 premierships in 7 years is not good enough.
           
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          • HoldenV8

            HoldenV8 Well-Known Member

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            Part of the problem was that in 2009 and 2010 we showed that we relied way too much on Snake. With him only playing a handful of games over those two years, our potent attack suddenly became limp and our defense suffered as well. Robbo did a serviceable job as a replacement in 2009 and Ben Farrar was ok at best in 2010, but they didn't provide anywhere near the impact from fullback that Snake did. And by having to play Robbo at fullback, it forced Des to play T-Rex on the wing. We lost a lot of speed without Snake.

            Of course, having Chris Bailey as the 5/8 didn't really help things either.

            In 2010 we were actually lucky to even play finals. Had the Scum's salary cap rorting not been exposed, realistically we would have finished 9th (even though not playing for anything, Melbourne won enough games that they would have qualified under normal circumstances).

            2012 was good, but that effort in the preliminary final against Melbourne was hard to take.

            2013.......robbed, plain and simple.

            2014. I'm not saying we could have beaten Souffs in the GF, though we'll never know, but again we were robbed. How they did not call Josh Reynolds offside during golden point in the semi-final is anyone's guess. Even the touch judges told the refs he was offside, but they simply ignored it and allowed him to get involved in the play.

            2015. Well, poor early season form and a horror run with injuries just about killed our season as we all know. We did come back though but that late season loss at home to the Speels hurt. We had everything to play for but didn't get it done.

            2016 looks better already, on paper at least. Our forwards have been strengthened and we do have some depth in the outside backs. What worries me (other than having a rookie coach, but you've got to start somewhere) is the halves. Outside of DCE we are extremely light on there. If he goes down injured we really only have either Isaac John or Tim Moltzen who can play halfback, and neither are a patch on DCE. And we're likely to play most of, if not all of the season without a recognised 5/8.
             
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          • Cliffymagic

            Cliffymagic Active Member

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            Mate. Im still peeved bout that renyolds offside .tottally stuffed our field goal shot and was a penalty. Plus that b.s with his kick hittin the ref and thier feed. Ugh.
             
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            • bones

              bones Bones Knows

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              So I guess Penn would have sacked Des and we would have had a massive clean out if the storm weren't caught cheating... You know, because it's a results driven business and all that.
              Funnily enough, we would then probably have missed out on the premiership victory the following year.
               
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              • Alby

                Alby Active Member

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                As good as Des was, he did have luck on his side in '10 and '11 (remember Lockyer going down in the finals, Melbourne losing gf qualifier at home.) Not saying Manly wouldn't have go the job done without those events - but it did make it easier.

                As for Tooves, he just needed a bit of luck in '13 gf with dumbass ref; and same as in '14 semi-final with another dumbass ref.
                 
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                • mosto

                  mosto I have a well known member Premium Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

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                  TBH you see the same amount of changes in every team, especially successful ones, due to salary cap pressure.

                  Looking at the 2016 squads of our GF opponents those years:

                  Warriors left from 2011:
                  Johnson
                  Lillyman
                  Mannering
                  Matulino

                  Storm left from 2008:
                  Slater
                  Cronk
                  Smith*

                  *didn't play GF but obviously would have if not suspended.
                   
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                  • Mals

                    Mals Well-Known Member Premium Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

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                    With the Dogs losing GFs in 2012 & 2014 it looks like Desmond used up all his luck at Manly :)
                     
                  • Alby

                    Alby Active Member

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                    He was bloody lucky to get away with the '2nd man phase/obstruction plays' in 2012 to get to the gf. And in 2014, a fair bit of luck to get into that gf - Reynolds offside, Jackson escaping suspension, weaker side of the finals pool.

                    Yeah, that should be the last ounce of luck squeezed out of him... hopefully.
                     
                  • Pablo

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                    Was a blessing in disguise. Souths were always gonna win the GF no matter what. And whoever they played were in for a reaming by refs, commentators, and the NRL. Was a good year to miss out on the GF. And be glad it was the dogs that got the pounding
                     
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                    • Mark from Brisbane

                      Mark from Brisbane Living the dream Premium Member

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                      Yep agree 100%, and this year was always going to feature Wayne Bennett & Thurston, you could tell after about a month of the 2015 season.

                      Wonder who the 2016 seasons pick will be?
                       
                    • Damien2812

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                      Maybe cronulla or Eels fairy tale but I hope not! Lol
                       
                    • MadMarcus

                      MadMarcus Local Lunatic 2017 Tipping Competitor

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                      I wonder if there is a thread on oneeyedeel listing who is still in their team from 1986?

                      Or on the Sharls site is there a thread listing who is still left from... Ummm... The 79 Amco Cup?
                       
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                      • ManlyBacker

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                        The Barrett and Bozo Barnstormers of course. Currently 12-1 so get your bickies on early haha
                         
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                        • NickRobbo1998

                          NickRobbo1998 Generic_Tragic101

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                          We have mateo and brown from the 2011 grand final just wrong team?
                           
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                          • TagMonster

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                            I have never screamed and sworn at the tv more than I did during those two moments. I do also remember that game as the point where I stopped watching NRL games that didn't involve Manly. I also now record them and only watch if Manly win. I just cannot stomach the **** referees the NRL employs at the moment.
                             
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