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  1. EOL now nesting on the GC

    The Elephant in the room

    The elephant turns out to be a mouse. The team looked happy with DCE tonight. Especially with that try saver in the second half.
  2. EOL now nesting on the GC

    Jamal Fogarty

    And that's fair enough. We all make our opinions form very little factual information. You, me or the next person will never really know what's going on under the hood. I personally think he's a decent family man looking out for his own interests. I've interviewed him a few times early in his...
  3. EOL now nesting on the GC

    Jamal Fogarty

    so i think dopey DCE is about as far from reality as possible. out of all the NRL players past and present this guy is a pure operator. nothing he has or will ever do was for anyone but himself.
  4. EOL now nesting on the GC

    Jamal Fogarty

    or it reeks of behind the scenes trouble between the club captain and the circus that is and will always be Manly (under the Penns ownership)
  5. EOL now nesting on the GC

    Jamal Fogarty

    Queensland. do i need to say more.
  6. EOL now nesting on the GC

    Jamal Fogarty

    But you have to admit this isn't the clubs first rodeo. If this was a one off instance then sure. Dce's a dog and see ya later but our club has been self harming for 25 years. If it waddles like a duck and quacks like a duck you can bet your last dollar it's probably not a cat.
  7. EOL now nesting on the GC

    Jamal Fogarty

    Wow. OK let's dance. I would expect most to agree TB isn't a coached arsehole. That's a fact. When TB arrived he did an article in the DT that stickers in my mind to this day. In it he talks about how he wants to change DCE's game into that of a Thurston type. Apparently because he was a...
  8. EOL now nesting on the GC

    Jamal Fogarty

    And this is the point I'm trying to make. We shouldn't be in this position bar very poor planning from Mestrov and co. Any swap needs to be an upgrade otherwise it's a net loss. It was my exact point with Des. Sure perhaps his time had come but the club was so desperate to get rid of him they...
  9. EOL now nesting on the GC

    Jamal Fogarty

    most players are about the $$ thou. would you like Dylan Brown for 1.4 per season? I think its a complete cop out to say players don't want to go to war with the guy. where is there any evidence of that? the players over the past 10 years have all looked very comfortable with DCE.
  10. EOL now nesting on the GC

    Jamal Fogarty

    again facts are important. 16-18 were the Trent Barrett years. a rookie coach that couldn't coach. our other million dollar man Tommy T has missed over 100 weeks of footy to injury over that same time. Chez has missed less than 10. the Manase Finau circus didnt help. just to name a few. so...
  11. EOL now nesting on the GC

    Jamal Fogarty

    Just as every player, coach, CEO and owner has been a contributing factor i would suppose. DCE gets a real flogging by some because he didn't lead a rag tag bunch of players to the promised land. A bigger issue than DCE could be the Trent Barrett years perhaps? the fact that Turbo has played...
  12. EOL now nesting on the GC

    Jamal Fogarty

    Why are they made up?
  13. EOL now nesting on the GC

    Jamal Fogarty

    Come on. Honestly? He's a dead set top shelf HB. I get many on here are bitter about the whole thing but facts are facts. 90% of other sides in the NRL would have taken him in a heartbeat. He won a Clive Churchill medal from a loosing side. He's a QLD and Australian player. Actually don't...
  14. EOL now nesting on the GC

    Jamal Fogarty

    It's not JF I'm directly concerned about. It's how we got here once again. It should never have got to this point.
  15. EOL now nesting on the GC

    Jamal Fogarty

    So just to be clear it's DCE's fault we haven't won since 2011?
  16. EOL now nesting on the GC

    Jamal Fogarty

    ok you all win. I give up trying to point out factual info.
  17. EOL now nesting on the GC

    Jamal Fogarty

    Come on people. Numbers are numbers. I can see this is a lost battle for most on here. Fogarty is a solid player and as a team the raiders are doing well for once. does that mean JF is the reason the raiders are playing well? DCE has better numbers, more experience, more wins, less injuries...
  18. EOL now nesting on the GC

    Jamal Fogarty

    Facts don't Lie. Apparently according to some our ****stain club captain's pea heart just isn't in the game any more and those same fans cant wait till the great white hope Fogarty comes to save our bacon..... well the numbers are laid out for the world to see..... cant wait till we downgrade...
  19. EOL now nesting on the GC

    The Elephant in the room

    we have obviously butted heads over the years but come on. you have an intrinsic dislike for 2 of our greatest clubmen of the past 40 years. I know you have your views on DES and that will never change but to now go at one of our best players for the past 10 years, club captain and a decent...
  20. EOL now nesting on the GC

    The Elephant in the room

    hes a solid player but should be on the wing.

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