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    2024 Optimist/Pessimist Thread - How are you feeling?

    I think everyone should adjust their expectations. This headless chook style we’ve mastered is not going to beat good sides. Even bad ones. We are not a good team. We are occasionally impressive but mostly not. But importantly thats who this side is. Ease up. We'll win 5 or 6 more games and come...
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    No Tommy and Saab

    And lack of ability
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    Line speed and ruck area

    Sorry to say it. We’ve not made the 8 for a reason. The core of this team is very average. We are all out attack or nothing. We’ve been fooled by good marketing when really it’s the same product. Odds on Brisbane winning by 40+?
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    Soft underbelly

    The problem is Manly have form in losing games they should win. In fact you can almost bank on it. Getting run down or run over is sadly in this groups DNA. How many humiliating moments do they need before they turn up ready or protect a lead. The Dolphins in their 35 game history have more...
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    Soft underbelly

    If only the commentators were the worst of our issues. Given the avalanche of ball and opportunity manly had (and squandered) the fact Canberra were even a chance was impressive. The only right they had to win was handed to them by us. I don’t blame the commentators being enthusiastic for a...
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    What will turn Manly from a good side into a great side

    Win first entertain second. Stop giving your opponents so many chances to get back in the game, especially when you aren’t good enough to hold them out. Play ugly and win
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    Soft underbelly

    To be fair they were no better under Hasler. When the mood strikes they look great but too often they default to being entertaining. Sides know you are always a chance against manly. We get run down and beaten on the bell more than anyone. We are only a slight momentum change away from falling...
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    Tom is a Myth

    Looks like he is playing just for his own stats. For a player rated as highly he makes far too many mistakes at critical times. Doesn’t hold a candle to Dylan Edward's or Ryan paps
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    So very predictable

    Is there a side in the competition who plays with such arrogance that they continually underperform against struggling sides? They had every possible advantage and still couldn’t match the raiders heart. Sadly we are a lightweight bunch of show ponies.
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