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  1. Bearfax

    [Resurrected] Tom Wright, the enigma

    I also saw several of his junior games, and I saw a different player obviously. He was a stand out. Only problem was involvement. He seemed a little lost at times knowing when to impose himself. Understandable given he's learning a different type of game. But the two codes aren't that different...
  2. Bearfax

    [Resurrected] Tom Wright, the enigma

    If we had held onto Gutherson and Wright, the side with Turbo and DCE would have been top tier, I suspect. You cant deny we let them go too early and that they both stood out elsewhere big time. It was a stuff up and I realise there is nothing we can do about them now, but there is a lesson to...
  3. Bearfax

    [Resurrected] Tom Wright, the enigma

    Actually it was anticipated that he would be a star. He was a high profile star in the juniors. You can only base assessments on performance. As mentioned he had overall fewer than three games in total time on the field. Hardly a way to determine whether he would be a top performer a year or two...
  4. Bearfax

    [Resurrected] Tom Wright, the enigma

    I think he had the qualities that would have made him a star in League. Unfortunately he got on the first grade field only five times and a couple of those for ten to twenty minutes only This was an example with Manly's recruitment back then, when there was no patience given and a clear pathway...
  5. Bearfax

    2026 recruitment & retention

    Is this bad blood between the bears and sea eagles ever going to end. I read North Sydney is now a feeder club for the Storm. Grow up guys. Its bleeding obvious that North Sydney district should fall under the Sea Eagle's umbrella. Immaturity.
  6. Bearfax

    Lehi the 1 Turbo centre

    Manly are not going to drop Saab or Koula, given they are on long term contracts. I could live with Turbo at centre but doubt it will happen. The Sea Eagles need to tie up young Hopoate quickly though. He's a future star. Garrick is our goal kicker. So its a problem I believe for Talau. Great...
  7. Bearfax

    So far off the pace

    Thanks for the complement. Unfortunately I'm not that good a man. I have many faults and can be a pain in the a... I just try to be fair and pragmatic. Its a struggle though.
  8. Bearfax

    So far off the pace

    I apologise for giving you a hard time. By the way I was also a bit of a fan in the early to mid 1970s of the old Razor Blade Poet Cohen, and of course who can forget Suzanne takes me down to her place by the river. There were a few poet songwriters examining social issues back then including...
  9. Bearfax

    So far off the pace

    Difference is Leonard, I was not saying that was what I believed. It wasn't an opinion, it was looking at the evidence produced and coming to a provisional decision. You misinterpret my intent. I'm not suggesting at any point that I'm right. I'm merely saying that certain evidence points to such...
  10. Bearfax

    So far off the pace

    That's arrogance on your part Leonard. How is it you can set yourself on a pedestal and judge what others think. You are still arguing about your own rightness. What if I was to say of you that your position offers complete ignorance. Another point of view just as valid as your position could...
  11. Bearfax

    So far off the pace

    Scorpio, your points are valid in my opinion. However in major sports, stats are everything. Even kids in the States and Britain live by them. We do have some stat material as has been shown in this discussion and it does offer significant information, but its not offering anything absolute...
  12. Bearfax

    So far off the pace

    What I'm saying Leonard is that many on this site hold opposing or differing views and I'm sure there are many outside of this discussion. Just because you think something is right, doesn't make it right.. You are only looking for things to support your argument. I can assure you in my people...
  13. Bearfax

    So far off the pace

    My whole argument was not to defend Garrick but to ensure that tangible evidence is produced to support claims. I've consistently taken that stance on this site for years. I have no problems at all supporting well presented verified evidential claims. Phobia presented tangible evidence and...
  14. Bearfax

    So far off the pace

    Seem to forget that Garrick played in the Australian X111 only a few months ago, so I doubt the ship has sailed. Obviously some who know the game well, recognise his worth, despite his apparent weaknesses at centre as well pointed out by Phobia.
  15. Bearfax

    So far off the pace

    That implies you know better than others who challenge your position Leonard with their own conjecture, perception, interpretation of what they are seeing and how they see it. I didn't realise you were infallible.
  16. Bearfax

    So far off the pace

    OK Phobia, now you have my attention. I assume these stats are from a reliable source, but if so, then I acknowledge this says something about Garrick's defense, though note Garrick played a few times at full back which is not a good position to defend. However you've introduced evidence that I...
  17. Bearfax

    So far off the pace

    Leonard do you really think perspective is superior to stats. I'm not suggesting they tell the full story but they offer a far more accurate picture than unsupported perspective. You did notice that in the US for example every major sport relies on stats to determine the worth of players. I'm...
  18. Bearfax

    So far off the pace

    Is that a statistically valid analysis or is it perspective? I don't have that data so I rely on you to produce it to confirm your assessment.
  19. Bearfax

    So far off the pace

    I respect your perspective on this about Garrick, but it is perspective. I've noticed this a lot over the years with how we all interpret information, that when a player is identified with a particular quality or lack of, it starts off as noted isolated incidents, anecdotal so to speak, and...
  20. Bearfax

    2026 recruitment & retention

    I still think, Mark, that Schu will shine. It just wasn't going to happen at Manly given the history.
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