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Williamson

Discussion in 'Rugby League Forum' started by Canteen Worker, Mar 7, 2006.

  1. Canteen Worker

    Canteen Worker Well-Known Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Very mixed opinions about Luke Williamson and his value to the team.


    Some rate him and others don't.

    Me - I think he is vital - a great asset to the team defensively when the defence is getting tired. No mistakes, cleans up and runs hard. Never lets us down, versatile and can kick goals too if needed.

    Indispensible in my view!!!
     
  2. fLIP

    fLIP UFO Hunter

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    He's our hard man. He'll make the tackle that fires everyone up. Its just not blatantly obvious.
     
  3. Nutzcraw

    Nutzcraw Active Member

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    We need him for sure...

    I am a fan!
     
  4. Ryan

    Ryan Well-Known Member

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    He's not as effective in attack as Cuthbertson.
    He's not as effective in defence than Watmough, Menzies & BK.
    He's not as skillfull as Witt, Burns, Monaghan and Orford.
    He's not as fast as Alberts, Matai and Bell.

    Yup...I don't see his value in any position.

    A "working" player that hasn't got impact has no place in the game today.

    That's why we released (upon his request) Heckenberg without an issue in my opinion.

    Would Williamson get a run, in The Roosters, Broncos, Parra, Dragons sides???

    That should answer what you are asking...and I leave it up to your honest interpretation on whether you think he'd make their sides.
     
  5. fLIP

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    A player like that might have got a run for the bears once upon a time.
     
  6. Canteen Worker

    Canteen Worker Well-Known Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    I strongly disagree with Ryan. Willo is a great utility man who is a workhorse. He is very underrated in my view.
     
  7. Nutzcraw

    Nutzcraw Active Member

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    I personally can't speak highly enough of him.. he is the type of player every team needs...

    When the opposition is 10 metres out from our line and they run towards him you know there isn't going to be a try that tackle!!

    Very handy player... i wouldn't have him out of my team..

    It's like phil gould says about menzies making last years origin team.. he may not be the flash up and coming bloke with every skill in the book.. but as a coach you are confident you can get the win with him in ya team..

    I think dessie thinks the same about willo and i do also!
     
  8. ManlyBacker

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    I agree with CW & Nutzcraw. Willo is today's OJ Cunningham. A player who is not a specialist but still retains the ability to slot in almost everywhere and who's work rate is equal to almost the best. Maybe the game has changed as Ryan says but I am not yet convinced and still doubt it. It is amazing when you don't have players like Willo how the gaps suddenly appear in defence when the others are gasping for air.
     
  9. robbiea

    robbiea Well-Known Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Willo needs to be there at the moment anyway.He gives 100% when he comes on & will tackle all day.As Ryan says ,he has no specialty position ,that may be,but you can throw him in anywhere & he will do the grind.I think he is vital for the team at the moment as not all spots have been secured & there is going to be a bit of changing the 1st 5 rounds. A few of the p-leaguers will be going hard for a spot in 1st,s ,& i dont think Willo is going to lie down & let them take it from him...
     
  10. Barks

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    Good points Ryan, but until Cuthbertson has proved himself in NRL - I'll stick with Willow.
    BK and watmough are more effective with a rest period - bring on Willow
    For his role, he doesn't need to be as skillful or fast like the guys mentioned.

    Hopefully Cuthbo does become the "impact" player in the future, because Willow is a fair back up replacement at best.
     
  11. Chip and Chase

    Chip and Chase True Supporter Staff Member Administrator Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Willo's OK, most teams have one of his ilk in their ranks. He's a workhorse and can cover a few possies which gives the bench a bit of flexibility. If he is used correctly than he is an asset.

    He might not win us too many games, but he won't lose us any either.
     
  12. KaZa

    KaZa Well-Known Member

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    i remember a game last year when we were struggling in defence.. and he came on and made some good tackles and a few decent hits. He lifted the defensive intensity. I think hes massively underated..
     
  13. Matabele

    Matabele Well-Known Member

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    Williamson should be in the number 6.

    He's far better "value" to our side than Monaghan - especially when size of contract is taken into consideration.
     
  14. Garts

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    Disagree with him playing No 6, it didnt work playing a forward there last year and it wont work this season.

    Orford needs someone else to take some of the attacking pressure from him. Not sure if that is Monas but we shall see soon enough, I will reserve judgement at the moment.
     
  15. Ryan

    Ryan Well-Known Member

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    I'm happy with Burns / Witt....the value for money would be better too.
     
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    Good points Ryan, but until Cuthbertson has proved himself in NRL - I'll stick with Willow.
    BK and watmough are more effective with a rest period - bring on Willow
    For his role, he doesn't need to be as skillful or fast like the guys mentioned.

    Hopefully Cuthbo does become the "impact" player in the future, because Willow is a fair back up replacement at best.

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    Its a bit hard for Cuthbo to prove himself in the NRL if dessie picks him on the bench for PL. If we don't give some of the younger talented players a go we will lose them next year to other teams.
     
  17. SilentBob

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    He carries a higher defence workload than most, someone would need to cover that if he isn't there, something they struggled with last time he was out for an extended time.


    He is a utility player, compare him to the other utility players to get a fair comparison.
    As a utility player his value is much greater than some of the specialist players. The fact that you can compare him to 11 players in 4-5 different positions proves the important utility value he brings.
    Tell this to Fitzgibbon, Flannery, McGuire, Maitua etc
    Speculation.
    Would Stewart? Would Leuluai? Manly is the side you have to worry about.
     
  18. Nutzcraw

    Nutzcraw Active Member

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    yeah, i was gonna say before that ryan has finished his own argument by the amount of players he compared willo against!!
     
  19. Cameron

    Cameron Cambo Premium Member

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    i agree with CW hes an awesome defender, not a flashy player and doesnt have the attacking skills of our back row but thats why hes a bench man he doesnt need to have the attacking skills when we have arguably the best back 3 in the league. Also the fact he can cover, centre, 5/8, lock, second row and hooker makes him great value on the bench.
     
  20. byso

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    Oh my, some do have rose coloured glasses for certain players which is unjustified.

    Williamson has had bad games and he can be a turnstile.

    But I agree that "generally" he's a solid player. But rarely will he win you a game. There's no way he's a better player than Monas. Not creatively or defensively.
     

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