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Whare

Discussion in 'Rugby League Forum' started by cf2 is back, Jul 30, 2010.

  1. cf2 is back

    cf2 is back Active Member

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    Matai is obv our priority - and gees it's getting boring waiting for the decision - but in the meantime does anyone know how Whare is going?

    Surely he's a huge part of our future esp if Matai does go.
     
  2. The Eagle

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    he was very quiet on Sunday
     
  3. Guest

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    its a different comp to even gauge how he will go.. all i know is the 1 game appearnce he made with us  was pretty good in my eyes..he wouldnt have been quiet if he was playing nrl though .. he would be pumped up with adrenalin completely different to how he plays in toyota cup.
     
  4. Ryan

    Ryan Well-Known Member

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    I thought he played with us three times mate?
     
  5. mr seagles

    mr seagles New Member

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    plus he plays toyota cup not queensland cup????
     
  6. Darren

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    good potential coming thru but Matai is playing so well. Amazing what happens when a player is out of contract. Whare offers something different to Lyon, Robbo, Tony, Matai etc in really quick feet and ability to run like Barba, Sandow etc. He is only 20/21 so should have a good future. Also, he has great one on one defence, tough bugger. But doesn't make the yards Matai makes but honestly few centres do!! Whare has the speed on Matai but most centres would be quicker than Steve but not half of his toughness.
     
  7. Guest

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    I thought he played with us three times mate?
    [/quote]REALLY  I JUST REMEMBER ONCE LOL..  sorry  then
     
  8. Guest

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      oh yeah  toyota  ::) again i hope i got smited  for them errors ..;D
     
  9. Rusty

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      oh yeah  toyota  ::) again i hope i got smited  for them errors ..;D
    [/quote]

    It might be worth having him play QLD cup in my opinion, tougher comp, give him a feel for what the NRL is like every week.
     
  10. Kiwi Eagle

    Kiwi Eagle Moderator Staff Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    I don't think we can use the out of contract one on Matai mate, he has given 100% in every game he has played for this club

    as Choc said on the Footy show, it will be a tragedy if we lose him. I rewatched some of that Tigers game again during the week, the 1st 16mins of Matai were awesome. Smashed Fitzhenry to create a turnover, Fulton looked certain to score until Matai came flying in from his position to stop him dead 2m out, then he powered through a tackle to put Foran over. He is still only 25 and can only get better, which is the reason I am riding this signing so much
     
  11. Copa Eagle

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    Whare is young, hes quick and has good hands, but in defence he is soft, a year in QLD cup would do him the world of good, we must keep Matai ! hes young (25), sure he has his injuries but he still puts in 100 percent, he bleeds maroon. I see whare having more potential on the wing, any thoughts ?
     
  12. Ryan

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    Guys, if we want to become more mobile and fast, could we swap Matai to the Backrow, and move one of our Backrowers to the frontrow?

    Look at how well both Aubusson (for Roosters), and Lewis (for Panthers) did in that switch.

    We could then use Whare in the centres. The way Rodney runs the ball, he could potentially be used as a mobile prop ALA Matt Prior from the Dragons.

    We then use T-Rex off the bench as our utility backline / backrow / prop player...again, giving our team a much more mobile and quick feel about it. Something like:-

    01. Brett Stewart
    02. Michael Robertson
    03. Dean Whare
    04. Jamie Lyon
    05. David Williams
    06. Keiran Foran
    07. Daly Cherry-Evans
    08. Jason King
    09. Matt Ballin
    10. Shane Rodney
    11. Anthony Watmough
    12. Steve Matai
    13. Glenn Stewart

    14. Ben Farrar
    15. George Rose
    16. Brent Kite
    17. Tony Williams

    That would take our lumbering type players (and every team needs one or two lumbering players) to two only in Rose / King - the rest rather mobile...and that's where I think the game is heading???

    I also shudder when I think of combinations with Whare / Stewart / Foran.

    The only other change I might go with, would be Hoppa for Robbo....but that's in a year or two when:-

    a) Hoppa is bigger, faster and more aggressive;
    b) Robbo needs a solid retirement plan in the UK (or wants one).   
     
  13. Guest

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    ryan  i like your thinking i dont care what they say about your yarts some are good like this scenario.. he can cover the backline too(with a slight reshuffle if needed) from the bench if we have any injuries there during the game , we havent had some one like that since menzies.
     
  14. Kiwi Eagle

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    Don't like it Ryan, for a number of reasons

    Mainly being that Matai is too valuable to us in his scoots from dummy half when we are coming off our own line, he always beats the 1st defender. He would also be more of an asset using his power running game wider on the park rather than closer to the middle. Whare's defence is also pretty suspect at the moment, which is to be expected for a rookie though

    I also like Matai lurking wider in defence, was interested to hear Braith Anasta saying on the footy show that as a halve you are always looking out of the corner of your eye expecting Matai to be coming

    And after listing those reasons, I have left the main one til last. In no way, shape or form is Rodney a front rower
     
  15. The Eagle

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    Rodney to front row? better off building TRex,Rodney is short and athetlic
     
  16. Guest

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    ryan has come up with a mobile pack not a brick **** house too big & lethargic, thats why rodney in front row..doesnt mean he has to stay there all game with rose & kite on the bench..he`s an 80 minute player so he can shuffle around....
     
  17. Guest

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    lol ..better of building trex.. do we want to start again with him its taken him 2yrs to know the wing position  with us(&he`s still learning that), how many years will moulding him into a forward take..
     
  18. Kiwi Eagle

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    William Hopoate and Dean Whare would be mobile front rowers, doesn't make them front rowers though
     
  19. Guest

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    William Hopoate and Dean Whare would be mobile front rowers, doesn't make them front rowers though
    [/quote] be realistic kiwi  why would you pick two inexperienced players & compare them to matai & rodney.. rodney is tough enough to handle it  he plays in the forwards any way & matai has the aggression to be in there also..
     
  20. Fro

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    No I think Kiwi is on to something here, of course we would need to get Cuthbo back and put him on the wing :)
     

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