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Well said Erin Molan.

Discussion in 'Rugby League Forum' started by Eagleheart, Jun 29, 2016.

  1. Eagleheart

    Eagleheart Well-Known Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Irrespective of your thoughts on channel nein, the footy show and their presenters, Erin Molan has bought me to tears with what she said about domestic violence earlier on in the show tonight.

    Maybe someone could help me with a link to the footy show twitter/facebook account with what Erin said.

    And congratulations Erin on your courage to speak up............!!

    All domestic violence against men, women and children is completely unacceptable. And a zero tolerance policy needs to be taken not only by society but by the NRL for anyone found guilty of this behaviour.

    Change happens when we actually take action and make the changes needed.....!
     
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  2. HoldenV8

    HoldenV8 Well-Known Member

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    Domestic violence against anyone is completely unacceptable. Women, children and even men.
     
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  3. Eagleheart

    Eagleheart Well-Known Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Totally agree, mentioned that in my post above.
     
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  4. SeaEagle9413

    SeaEagle9413 Forward Pass

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    I heard a sickening statistic on the radio a few months back that one woman a week dies because of domestic violence in Australia. It made me question wether I live in the so called "Lucky Country".

    We can do better than this Australia!
     
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  5. TerryRandall

    TerryRandall Well-Known Member

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    Actually, violence is unacceptable, domestic, non domestic, man, woman, child. I heard what she said - not sure what exactly was courageous about it - really just stating the obvious, which no right thinking person could possibly disagree with. Seemed a touch grand-standing for mine. I actually find it off-putting when people say things like "let me just say that person x is of course innocent until proven guilty, but if person x is guilty then xxxxx." Another way to express what she said may have been "of course we all agree that violence is completely abhorrent. Let's just hope that semi is not guilty."
     
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  6. Harvies elbow

    Harvies elbow Well-Known Member

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    I think you said it better than erin, eagleheart. I think it's too soon to bring up semi's case publicly like she did. I reckon a breath needs to be taken before alluding publicly to a particular case. Which would've come in handy in snakes instance. Too many hasty comments do much damage. To me she only said what any sane mind already thinks. I preferred the sentiment in the wording of this thread. Well said.
     
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  7. fLIP

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    As I said earlier this year in a similar topic, there are some things in life you don't need to be taught. Hurting other people is one of them.

    There ARE things in life which I feel you just don't get the right to a second chance, and beating up on a family member is one of them (even worse when you're a 120kg giant smacking your 60kg wife about).

    IMO, you get found out doing this you're gone from the game; and in my ideal world you're going to do serious time.
     
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  8. Loobs

    Loobs I am not really Scott Penn Premium Member

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    Wait a sec - the Footy Show is still on..?
     
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  9. Slide

    Slide Active Member

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    It is worth getting in the habit of speaking out against hidden violence like domestic abuse of all sorts because the power DV is trying to achieve is exposed and nullified when spoken aloud. The more incidental opportunities are taken like the footy show (however stiltingly) the sooner people will think twice before expressing their feelings with abuse.

    Every bit helps. The specifics of individuals who are being investigated can be kept aside until a verdict is given but when the issue comes up as with the Radradra accusation it is an opportunity to speak up about the issue (not that particular case).
     
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  10. TerryRandall

    TerryRandall Well-Known Member

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    This honestly surprises me. I have known a lot of people over a lot of years (too many) from all walks of life, and from this quite wide circle of family, friends and distant acquaintances, I have never even heard of a case of domestic violence, quite apart from anyone being killed. Not saying its not true, just really surprised.
     
  11. TerryRandall

    TerryRandall Well-Known Member

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    Completely agree about speaking up, but I still feel uneasy when someone does so publicly with explicit reference to an as yet unproven allegation. Surely this is influencing the public's mindset about that individual, at the very least subconsciously, which from a purely legal perspective, must influence potential jurors and the like. Its almost guilty until proven innocent, rather than the other way around.
     
  12. lsz

    lsz Well-Known Member Staff Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    I would think the issue are those who do not feel safe enough to speak up
     
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  13. Slide

    Slide Active Member

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    I think we all agree @TerryRandall that explicit reference to a case is dangerous territory.

    My point is that this is a good time to speak out about the issue (ie. when DV comes up as a topic); and Erin Molan went to lengths last night to separate her comments from this instance before launching her say about DV.

    As far as not having met anyone who has suffered abuse at home, this is a hidden issue and the ability to hide it is part of the continued control one has over another. Speak to someone working in the justice system or providing shelter to broken families and they will confirm this happens daily.
     
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  14. TerryRandall

    TerryRandall Well-Known Member

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    I was surprised about the 1 murder a week stat - can't imagine these can or would be hidden. As for the comments last night, she specifically used the semi allegations as the basis for her comments about DV - prefacing them with the usual "innocent until proven guilty" disclaimer doesn't really separate them in my view. If he is guilty then he needs to be severely punished, but I just feel uneasy whenever the press starts acting as judge, jury and executioner. They have been known to get things wrong.
     
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