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US election

Discussion in 'General Discussion Forum' started by Matabele, Nov 1, 2008.

  1. Matabele

    Matabele Well-Known Member

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    For the sake of the entire globe I hope Obama gets over the line this week.

    The alternative is terrifying.  A bumbling geriatric who doesn't know how to use the internet and a pro-gun, pentecostal loony just one heartbeat from the presidency. 

    The Obama campaign has both style and substance.

    The polls may suggest an easy Obama victory, but even our own Bob Carr (who probably knows more about US politics than NSW politics) raised the spectre of up to 10% of WASPs who "say" they will vote Obama but with pen in hand will vote for the village idiot and his witch maiden. 

    Obama's lead is around 10% today.
     
  2. The Gronk

    The Gronk Well-Known Member

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    I hope he wins too.  I am going to LA just after the election and if he loses it will probably be in round 2 of the LA riots. 

    Oh that and he would be a million times better
     
  3. Garts

    Garts Well-Known Member

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    I hope he wins but I am expecting he will be beaten.  So many redneck hicks in the US it would not surprise at all. 
     
  4. Matabele

    Matabele Well-Known Member

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      It galls me how much sway those ignorant hillbillys are allowed to have over the affairs of the world.
     
  5. byso

    byso Well-Known Member

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    I also hope Obama wins
     
  6. Kiwi Eagle

    Kiwi Eagle Moderator Staff Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Of much more importance is the NZ elections next weekend :D

    Hopefully the Dog Clark will be on her way
     
  7. Matabele

    Matabele Well-Known Member

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    You do realise he's not of the conservative ilk?

    As for the NZ election, I hear a hung Parliament is possible.  Clark will definitely be on her way in that case.
     
  8. The Gronk

    The Gronk Well-Known Member

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    You do realise he's not of the conservative ilk?

    As for the NZ election, I hear a hung Parliament is possible.  Clark will definitely be on her way in that case.
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    There will be a hung parliament no matter what in NZ because they have proportional representation. 

    The nationals will probably get enough votes to form a coalition easily enough to get the majority.  Clark will need to rely on the greens. 
     
  9. Fro

    Fro Well-Known Member

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      It galls me how much sway those ignorant hillbillys are allowed to have over the affairs of the world.
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    Yeah cause that 1 man 1 vote thing is so old now isn't it :)
     
  10. Kiwi Eagle

    Kiwi Eagle Moderator Staff Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    You do realise he's not of the conservative ilk?

    As for the NZ election, I hear a hung Parliament is possible.  Clark will definitely be on her way in that case.
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    There will be a hung parliament no matter what in NZ because they have proportional representation. 

    The nationals will probably get enough votes to form a coalition easily enough to get the majority.  Clark will need to rely on the greens. 
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    True, the scary part of things is that if the Labour and Greens scrape enough support together to get in, the country if stuffed. Are enough loonies to listen to the Greenies view over here too

    Hopefully Clark nailed her coffin shut last week. Party president flew over to Oz, to dig some dirt on John Key, and came back with 24kg of paperwork on him !!! They let the info out, and it backfired big time on them and turned some swing voters off them, with Clark denying any knowledge of the blokes trip to Oz, before later in the week it was put to her that he flew over on Labour party money and she has to sign the trip off before hand, so she was forced to change her story. Not a great thing when they are basing their entire campaign on "trust"
     
  11. Chip and Chase

    Chip and Chase True Supporter Staff Member Administrator Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Weren't the exclusive brethren loonies heavily involved in the political scene in NZ ?? What a bunch of fruit loops that lot are........unfortunately the manage to get the ear of some of our stupidier conservative politicians over here as well.

    As for the US, I initially didn't think that the good old boys would be ready for a black President, but as the campaign has progressed I wouldn't be surprised if Obama gets up. I think McCain will rue the day they decided on Palin as a VP running mate.

    By the way, does anybody know if the war on terror in Iraq is still going on ?? Haven't heard much about it lately
     
  12. Canteen Worker

    Canteen Worker Well-Known Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    The exclusive brethren are complete nutjobs and that is coming from a conservative Christian. They had a lot of influence in the Howard Govt and they also get involved in the US. Even though they don't vote, they seek to have a very controllilng influence.
     
  13. byso

    byso Well-Known Member

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    You do realise he's not of the conservative ilk?

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    Do you realise The USA is a hugely f-cked up nation, needing a deluxe shake up by some one that seems genuine.
     
  14. Matabele

    Matabele Well-Known Member

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      It galls me how much sway those ignorant hillbillys are allowed to have over the affairs of the world.
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    Yeah cause that 1 man 1 vote thing is so old now isn't it :)
    [/quote]  1 man one vote is a nonsense.  Americans should have to take a test to qualify to vote.  Be asked simple things like what is the capital of the UK etc.  If they fail, they don't vote.
     
  15. Fro

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    If you are even 1% serious with that crap, that is one of the most arrogant things I have ever heard.

    You crap on about being disenfranchised and then you advocate democracy being nonsense.

    Can't have it both ways.
     
  16. Matabele

    Matabele Well-Known Member

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    I'm deadly serious, particularly when it comes to compulsory voting.  People should earn the right to vote by being politically aware - particularly when their vote impacts on the entire globe.

    And democracy is a nonsense.  Western political process is about who has the most political donations to spend on manipulation.  Corrupt as all get out.
     
  17. Fro

    Fro Well-Known Member

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    Agreed that the process has been bastardised, but democracy in itself is not.
     
  18. The Gronk

    The Gronk Well-Known Member

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      It galls me how much sway those ignorant hillbillys are allowed to have over the affairs of the world.
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    Yeah cause that 1 man 1 vote thing is so old now isn't it :)
    [/quote]  1 man one vote is a nonsense.  Americans should have to take a test to qualify to vote.  Be asked simple things like what is the capital of the UK etc.  If they fail, they don't vote.
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    Actually I would say that in general the level of discussion here about politics is much more mature than that in Aus. But then again I have been living in berkeley, where an uneducated person is regarded as someone with only one degree. 
     
  19. Matabele

    Matabele Well-Known Member

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    Exactly - and you'd find similar in Canberra.

    I'm referring to the down home yokels in the rust belt who will cast their vote according to who lets them keep the most guns. 
     
  20. The Gronk

    The Gronk Well-Known Member

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    One interesting difference here is that people applaud those with money and deride those with an education, whereas in Australia I feel it is the other way around. 
     

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