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Toovey 2017 Vs Barrett 2017

Discussion in 'Rugby League Forum' started by king2213, Aug 27, 2016.

2017 Toovey / Johns VS 2017 Barrett / Cartright POLL

  1. 2017 Toovey / Johns

    10 vote(s)
    90.9%
  2. 2017 Barrett / Cartwright

    1 vote(s)
    9.1%
  1. king2213

    king2213 Well-Known Member

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    2017 Toovey / Johns

    1. Snake / Turbo /Gutherson / Hiku / Williame
    2. Tafua / Gutherson /
    3. Matai / Gutherson / Turbo / Williame
    4. Hiku / Gutherson / Turbo / Williame
    5. Turbo / Gutherson
    6. Mateo / Jack Littlejohn
    7. DCE
    8. Brenton Lawrence
    9. Matt Ballin
    10. Josh Starling
    11. Tom Symonds
    12. Jamie Buhrer
    13. Jake Turbo

    14. Gun new prop 1
    15. Knight
    16. Jayden Hodges
    17. Gun prop 2

    18 Blake Leary/Jamil Hopoate ????? >>>>> Luke Burgess/Vave/Horro/Lui



    VS

    2017 Barrett / Cartwright


    1. Brett Stewart / Turbo / Williame
    2. Tafua / Wright
    3. Matai / Williame / Turbo / Wright
    4. Walker / Williame / Turbo / Wright
    5. Turbo / Wright
    6. Blake Green
    7. DCE
    8. Darcy Luscick
    9. Parcell / Api
    10. Nate Myles
    11. Tapau
    12. Jamie Buhrer
    13. Jake Turbo

    14 Parcell / Api / Brown
    15 AFB
    16 Knight
    17 Willis Meehan

    18. Winterstein/Nathan Green/Jamil Hopoate/ Leary

    off contract / Lawrence/Starling/Vave

    Vote away guys this is for 2017
     
    Last edited: Aug 29, 2016
  2. conanu

    conanu Well-Known Member Premium Member

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    I think people over estimate Johns's contribution to Manly. He was a part time halves coach. Arthur and then Georgalis was the Cartwright of Tooveys era.

    Still not sure what your post is about though.
     
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  3. Harvies elbow

    Harvies elbow Well-Known Member

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    Thought I'd already posted this
    Tooves 38-6
     
  4. king2213

    king2213 Well-Known Member

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    this is the 17 side

    last poll was 16 :)
     
  5. MadMarcus

    MadMarcus Local Lunatic 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Not sure if the line ups are right but Tooves would win 40 nil.
     
  6. king2213

    king2213 Well-Known Member

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    This is a discussion forum ... i am asking people to vote on which squad/staff would have achieved the best results

    2017
     
    Last edited: Aug 28, 2016
  7. Harvies elbow

    Harvies elbow Well-Known Member

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    OK. Even better.
    3 straight victories by the same margin.
    38-6.
     
  8. Harvies elbow

    Harvies elbow Well-Known Member

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    Tooves had some dud assistant coaches.
    " The white ant" Arthur
    " Fried brain" johns
    Steve georgallis was probably the best, at least the most honest.
    In fact the resources he had to work with were pathetic compered to now.
    Gym, medical etc.... all new. Roster...
    I will concede Barrett has the most inept assistant coach in the Easter Island statue.
     
  9. CJAeagle

    CJAeagle Active Member

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    This years side would've been better by a country mile had we not suffered the injuries that we did.
    But that wasn't the case unfortunately and now you're just trying to dig back into the past as you've done many times. If you throw cronulla for example with similar injuries this year there's no way they would be where they are.
     
  10. Harvies elbow

    Harvies elbow Well-Known Member

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    Last year's team had a similar injury toll so it's fairly even in that regard.
     
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  11. king2213

    king2213 Well-Known Member

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    He was exclusively contracted to Manly Geoff Tooveys assistant and including junior development

    He had media commitments on the side !

    At times it looked like Johns was playing on the park himself, his play book was executed many times

    it was obvious he was instrumental to our results
     
  12. king2213

    king2213 Well-Known Member

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    Jayden Hodges try 2014 SF against the DOGS Jayden hodges after the game " Joey told me to look for Tony Williams and wait for him to turn his shoulder, as soon as he turns dummy and run through "

    " I followed Joeys instructions and i scored " post match interview Jayden Hodges

    5 missing first graders 2014 sf , we get beaten by a point

    " yeah Joey johns is a fried brain " " he didnt play a big role into our game plans "


    Yeahhhhh right why do you think Geoff Toovey NRMA ex board memeber hired him ? To get results
     
  13. king2213

    king2213 Well-Known Member

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    Roosters arnt stupid ... they hired him and his son is now playing for Paddington eastern suburbs comp ( Lil Joey )

    Nice move roosters
     
  14. Chip and Chase

    Chip and Chase True Supporter Staff Member Administrator Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    You aren't going to win a game with Mateo at 6, especially 2017 version of Mateo.
     
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  15. king2213

    king2213 Well-Known Member

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    I wll judge Mateo on his performances under Toovey

    He had some very good games for us and we looked very dangerous

    The combinations would have only improved in 16 and 17
     
  16. conanu

    conanu Well-Known Member Premium Member

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    Sorry mate, didn't mean to sound like I was having a go. Not at all, just wasn't sure what the idea was.
     
  17. conanu

    conanu Well-Known Member Premium Member

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    Don't get me wrong I thought it was great when we had him. We certainly had a much better attack with him working behind the scenes. I am guessing he wasn't loved by Zorba. Wouldn't be suprised if he thought Zorba was irrelevant so Zorba had him flicked.
     
  18. Terry Zarsoff

    Terry Zarsoff Well-Known Member

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    So does that mean he has moved to the ES district, or is he taking his son with him to training?

    Not that it really matters. His heart is still really in Newcastle.
     
  19. Terry Zarsoff

    Terry Zarsoff Well-Known Member

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    Most people think ZtH is irrelevant.

    Except ZtH, ZtH's wife Barb, maybe his kids, Bozo, maybe Bozo's boys, Mr Fluffy, pRick, Phool Buzzer, Deano, Dan the Man and ZtH's bookie.

    Who could that last one be?
     
  20. king2213

    king2213 Well-Known Member

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    either was i my feathered friend :) and yes internet conversation lacks tone etc .. so understandings happen often :)

    i am an optimist and yes we cant bring Toovs back, but, im sure the discussions we have on this forum echo throughout the club , we are not irrelevant , we are the soul and heart beat of this club :)

    Looking forward to the next 2 years under Barrett there is some positives and some negatives :) At least we do have positives to cheer about
     
    Last edited: Aug 28, 2016

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