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Tony Williams

Discussion in 'Rugby League Forum' started by Kiwi Eagle, Aug 4, 2010.

  1. Kiwi Eagle

    Kiwi Eagle Moderator Staff Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    1 of the leading targets after a loss, "will never be a winger" "Lazy" "Disinterested" etc, so i thought I would dig through the stats and compare him to the 4 wingers the comp raves about at the moment, Uate, Tuqiri, Vatuvei and Morris and see how he stacks up stats wise. These stats are wing only, don't include his games at centre

    Tries

    Uate 20 (19 games)
    Morris 16 (17 games)
    Vatuvei 14 (13 Games)
    Tuqiri 13 (19 Games)
    Williams 11 (16 games)

    Line Breaks

    Uate 24
    Morris 17
    Tuqiri 16
    Vatuvei 12
    Williams 11

    Offloads

    Vatuvei 24
    Morris 20
    Williams 16
    Uate 11
    Tuqiri 9

    Tackle Breaks

    Uate 105
    Tuqiri 94
    Williams 85
    Morris 78
    Vatuvei 53

    Runs

    Uate 13.4
    Morris 13.2
    Tuqiri 13
    Vatuvei 12.2
    Williams 10.9

    Metres (Average)

    Uate 140
    Morris 139
    Tuqiri 127
    Vatuvei 120.8
    Williams 105.8

    Errors

    Williams 17
    Morris 17
    Vatuvei 21
    Tuqiri 22
    Uate 29

    So, make of those what you will. Personally I think it shows that he is having a pretty reasonable season and is not that far behind the standout wingers in some areas of his game. Obviously plenty still to work on but not this useless lazy bloke people like to portray
     
  2. Dan

    Dan Administrator Staff Member Administrator 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    I wouldn't be framing those stats and putting them on the wall. They aren't great
     
  3. DSM5

    DSM5 Well-Known Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    It would be interesting to compare his stats with the others at his stage of their careers.  Also it's a bit irrelevant given the team around him and the others, and who's inside. 
     
  4. Garts

    Garts Well-Known Member

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    Everyone expects him to run over people everytime he runs the ball.  Whilst he is big, do we expect some of the front rowers to run over people time they hit the ball up? 
     
  5. Spuds Bodyguard

    Spuds Bodyguard Active Member

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    The fact is that he often sends the first tackler cartwheeling with his fend, which makes him an easier target for the other defenders.
     
  6. Kiwi Eagle

    Kiwi Eagle Moderator Staff Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    DSM, Here are Manu Vatuvei's 2007 stats

    Games 23
    Tries 10
    LineBreaks 12
    Offloads 24
    Tackle Breaks 67
    Runs 9.7
    Metres 103.9
    Errors 31

    Not a hell of a lot different to where Tony is at now
     
  7. COMMANDER

    COMMANDER IF YOU DO NOT TRY YOU CAN NOT FAIL 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    I would think these stats put him in the top five wingers in the NRL.  Everyone is keen to bag T-Rex, but they do it when we lose, and are silent when we win.

    Think of were Manu was 12-18 months ago.
     
  8. BOZO

    BOZO Well-Known Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Tony Williams is younger than these other wingers and is still growing, lol.
    he makes more tackle breaks than morris and vatuvei,more offloads than uate and tuquiri,makes only 1 line break less than vatuvei,and makes less errors than all of the others .Also i bet most players would rather play with T-Rex than against him and get cartwheeled by one of his devastating fends . he squats grown man off like flies . The boy has potential, he is getting better and will continue to do so
     
  9. COMMANDER

    COMMANDER IF YOU DO NOT TRY YOU CAN NOT FAIL 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    If we keep him, in years to come the Lyon/T-rex combo will become legend.  Killer has a knack for positioning the wrecking ball in the corner; thats only going to get better.
     
  10. BOZO

    BOZO Well-Known Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    spot on commander
     
  11. Cletus

    Cletus Active Member

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    That's what I think too, when the defenders takes him around the legs he's not going to keep running.
     
  12. ayjay007

    ayjay007 Well-Known Member

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    Maybe T-rex's stats would be better if the forwards did something silly,like,I don't know-GO F*****G FORWARD!!!!!!!!Maybe then the halves can get a roll on,and the backs will reap the benefits!!
     
  13. mr seagles

    mr seagles New Member

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    t-rex is going back to parramatta very soon....fact...good riddons
     
  14. jwaa

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    Bar monday night, Trex has been improving every game.
    Give him some more time, its still very early days in his career.
     
  15. KaZa

    KaZa Well-Known Member

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    I really rate T Rex... but Monday he really frustrated me.

    Its as if hes only at 50%. He doesnt try hard enough or have the passion to succeed any further.

    He has the capabilities to be one of the most feared wingers like Vatuvei has become... Warriors fans werent that impressed with his inconsistencies either at the start.. but they love him now.

    I just think he can be twice the player hes showing.. he shows glimpses.. but he just needs to try harder at times.. more urgency.. harder and direct runs.. etc.
     
  16. The Eagle

    The Eagle Well-Known Member

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    Not many players have so much debate over them
    For TRex i just wish he could have a brain transplant with Dell or atleast not be so ****ing nervous all the time,im gunna start calling him our dark tweak (southpark refference)
     
  17. earl

    earl Active Member

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    He certainly wouldnt be Starvin Marvin...
     
  18. HappilyManly

    HappilyManly MWTS Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    I think he attracts so much critique only because we ALL see his potential, and he falls way short of it. 
    If only he would believe what his Coach says we would be happily cheering instead of jeering ever time he is getting the ball or facing a running opponent.

    Tony we want to see you shine for Manly - step up pleeeease!
     
  19. lismore_fan

    lismore_fan Well-Known Member

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    Great description, Commander.

    Gone is T-Rex, Enter The Wrecking Ball
     
  20. Fluffy

    Fluffy Well-Known Member

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    so what are his stats compares to average wingers like Robbo?
     

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