Tom Symonds

[Mal Cochrane]

I am not going to overly bag the guy, but I have seen enough really. He is still a good footballer and would go well in whatever the next tier comp is.

But for 1st grade, he has no mongrel, and has next to zero effectiveness. I don't want to watch him play for manly any more really.

Can we start using Leary, Brown, Mateo, move Lawrence or Myles back...anything really.

He, and probably Darcy would not get in the 17 at any club bar the Knights

 

[Snake]

I have mixed feelings about him...sometimes I think I like him and then I just scratch my head at the way he crabs back in field all the time when the space is out wide. He could make an extra 5 metres per hit-up if he ran to where the space was. I don't think I have ever seen Boyd Cordner run sideways...you'd think Symonds would have watched the top backrowers in the game at some point and asked himself why he doesn't try and do the same thing?!

 

[Midnight Rambler]

Defensive work rate is great, everything else is ****ing ****. I'm bemused when I hear people speak well of him. Weakest backrower in the comp. Reserve grader

 

[The Who]

Give me T-Red any day over Mr Plod, the high profile recruit from Queensland.

 

[mjb136]

Too much sideways running and drops the pill at leaat twice a game, and always at key moments.

Exit stage left for mine.

 

[mjb136]

Give me T-Red any day over Mr Plod, the high profile recruit from Queensland.

I know right, round 9 and first time i have seen him run instead of his usual jog was tonight.

 

[king2213]

T-Red was playing much better under Toovey

 

[HoldenV8]

T-Red's defence is generally good. Tonight he made 34 tackles and only missed 1. However.....

He also stuffed up our attack on a few occasions with a poor kick or dropped ball.

On his day he can be a good, solid back rower. Tonight he was average and despite his defence can be considered to have had a poor game.

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

Wasn't his best game tonight but in other games this year I have seen him hitting harder in defence than I'd ever noticed before. Worth persevering with although Buhrer is probably in our team if fully fit.

 

[Turbo]

He wasn't at his best but is worth keeping

 

[Mal Cochrane]

I respect your opinion, I just think we already HAVE persevered. When is he going to become a bit of a gun for us or provide a bit of x factor?

I've seen him have good games here and there also, but too far in between. i don't think any team wanting to make the 8 can afford to carry that type of player. I'll put it out there and say he will never be in any grand final team because you don't make it with one ineffective backrower

 

[HappilyManly]

I'd rather we use Tred's spot for Mateo - offloads needed, instead of dying with the ball each tackle

 

[Turbo]

Who do we recruit to replace him? Gillet?

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

I. I'll put it out there and say he will never be in any grand final team because you don't make it with one ineffective backrower

He's already been in our 2013 grand final team!
I agree though, he's probably a smidge below what we'd like.

 

[Rusty Cage]

.....and loves to give away a stupid penalty.

 

[HappilyManly]

I just remembered that Ferris will be back after the Test weekend, so Tred maybe back to NSW Cup anyway.

 

[Mr Manly 007]

I am not going to overly bag the guy, but I have seen enough really. He is still a good footballer and would go well in whatever the next tier comp is.

But for 1st grade, he has no mongrel, and has next to zero effectiveness. I don't want to watch him play for manly any more really.

Can we start using Leary, Brown, Mateo, move Lawrence or Myles back...anything really.

He, and probably Darcy would not get in the 17 at any club bar the Knights

I agree with most of your comments on Symmonds - but Leary and Brown are in no way shape or form the answer. Both just handy at best .A few forwards were shown up tonight...

 

[Brooke]

I'd rather we use Tred's spot for Mateo - offloads needed, instead of dying with the ball each tackle

Totally agree. Maybe we should start a bring back Mateo campaign.

 

[Mal Cochrane]

i will stand corrected there, he was on the bench for 2013

I only checked GF winning teams...

 

[HoldenV8]

On our forwards tonight.....

Lussick gave away a silly penalty early and his night didn't get much better. 4/10

Parcell was unlucky not to score a try and was one of our best. 7/10

Myles ran faster at one point that I've ever seen him go (must have been because Kevin Walters was there. Origin and all that). Otherwise was his plodding, metre gaining self. 7/10

Symond's defence was good. His running, kicking and handling let him and the team down though. 4/10

Taupau needs to get involved more in attack. His defence was class and didn't miss a tackle. 6/10

Jake needs to put a bit more oomph into his hit ups, but otherwise showed that all things being equal he should be a starter for City and could be in line for a Blues bench spot. He must have thought he was the Turbo Trbojevic at one point in the second half, he was running and backing up everywhere. Clever backing up and kick for Godinet's try. 8/10

Lawrence didn't have a lot of impact tonight really. 4/10

Fonua-Blake bends the line every time. Bogus penalty against him in the 2nd half. 6/10

Vave just keeps on eating the metres. 108 from 11 runs. 7/10

Brown ended up in the backs because of Walker going off injured.

We had 3 forwards tonight who ran for 100 metres or more. Myles (119), Vave (108) and Taupau (100). Our next best were Jake (76) and Parcell (75). Steve Matai was our only other player to break 100 (104). We had 4 players make over 30 tackles. Parcell (41), Trbojevic (38), Taupau (36), Symonds (34).

On the other side of the coin, the Cowboys had 5 forwards who ran for over 100. Tamau (177), Taumalolo (176), Lowe (126), Scott (115) and Hannant (110). Linnett (138) and Winterstein (115) also broke the ton. Granville with 30 was the only Cowboy to make 30 or more tackles.