Tigers V Sea Eagles Teams, News Stats & Chat

[Berkeley_Eagle]

Tigers V Sea Eagles Teams, News Stats & Chat

ANZ Stadium Homebush

5:30pm Saturday
23/08/2008

SEA EAGLES NRL TEAM:
1. Brett Stewart
2. Michael Robertson
3. Steve Bell
4. Steve Matai
5. David Williams
6. Steve Menzies
7. Matt Orford (c)
8. Brent Kite
9. Matt Ballin
10. Josh Perry
11. Anthony Watmough
12. Glenn Hall
13. Glenn Stewart

Interchange:
14. Heath L'Estrange
15. Luke Williamson
16. Adam Cuthbertson
17. Mark Bryant
18. Jason King
Coach: Des Hasler

WESTS TIGERS NRL TEAM:
1. Brett Hodgson ©
2. Taniela Tuiaki
3. Dean Collis
4. Chris Lawrence
5. Beau Ryan
6. Benji Marshall
7. Robbie Farah
8. Keith Galloway
9. John Morris
10. Bryce Gibbs
11. Dene Halatau
12. Chris Heighington
13. Liam Fulton

15. Tevita Metuisela
16. Bronson Harrison
17. Ryan O’Hara
19. Ben Te’o
20. Daine Laurie
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Referee
Referee Tony Archer
Manly won 8 lost 8
Tigers won 9 lost 19



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HEAD TO HEAD RECORDS (2003 - )
Overall Head-to-head Records
Played 10; Manly 6, Wests Tigers 4

Head-to-head at ANZ Stadium
Played 0; Wests Tigers 0, Manly 0

Record Crowd these Clubs (Excludes Finals and Double Headers)
20231 at Leichhardt Oval, 7/5/2006 (Rd 9), Wests Tigers Won 24 - 18

Last 10 Games Head-to-head: Played 10; Manly 6, Wests Tigers 4

Won By Score Venue Date
Manly 34 - 4 Brookvale Oval 13/7/2007 (Rd 18)
Manly 19 - 8 Leichhardt Oval 24/3/2007 (Rd 2)
Manly 16 - 12 Brookvale Oval 9/6/2006 (Rd 14)
Wests Tigers 24 - 18 Leichhardt Oval 7/5/2006 (Rd 9)
Wests Tigers 49 - 24 Leichhardt Oval 1/7/2005 (Rd 17)
Manly 34 - 26 Brookvale Oval 8/5/2005 (Rd 9)
Manly 26 - 18 Brookvale Oval 11/7/2004 (Rd 18)
Wests Tigers 30 - 22 Leichhardt Oval 25/4/2004 (Rd 7)
Manly 38 - 30 Leichhardt Oval 8/6/2003 (Rd 13)
Wests Tigers 38 - 12 Brookvale Oval 6/4/2003 (Rd 4)

Biggest Win Score Venue Date
Wests Tigers 38 - 12 Brookvale Oval 6/4/2003 (Rd 4)
Manly 34 - 4 Brookvale Oval 13/7/2007 (Rd 18)


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[Berkeley_Eagle]

Re: Tigers V Sea Eagles Teams, News Stats & Chat

Sea Eagles Toyota Cup Team: Bodie O’Connell, Teariki Peneha, Todd Wilson, Jake Lingard, Matt Grieve, Kieran Foran, Daly Cherry-Evans, Ilija Radan, Brad Bennett, Michael Tiopira, Kenny Edwards, Jared Waerea-Hargreaves, Jamie Buhrer.
Interchange: Jai Jones-Wiegold, James Cunningham, Darcy Lussick, Inoke Tapaatoutai, Ben Uptin, Cameron Woo, William Hopoate
Coach: David Penna

Sea Eagles NSW Cup: Sean Meaney, John Grey, Shane Neumann, Andrew Suniula, Gideon Mzembe, Nick Bradley-Qalilawa, Jeff Robson, Phil Morwood, Trent Rose, George Rose, Jack Afamasaga, Jon Grieve, Jason Wells.
Interchange: Dean Connell, Chris Trembath, Junior Palau, Mark Offerdahl, Ray Nasso
Coach: Craig Sandercock

 

[eggson]

Re: Tigers V Sea Eagles Teams, News Stats & Chat

ARCHER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

 

[The Gronk]

Re: Tigers V Sea Eagles Teams, News Stats & Chat

I take it the missed tackle, dropped ball specialist missed being cited by the judiciary?

 

[Kiwi Eagle]

Re: Tigers V Sea Eagles Teams, News Stats & Chat

**** me, Archer = a tough game to win

Interested to see Hopoate on the TC bench

 

[DSM5]

Re: Tigers V Sea Eagles Teams, News Stats & Chat

Same old, same old.  My guess - Cuthbo to miss out.  Hope the game plan is altered for this one.  Rushing out of the line sure won't work again.  Whatmough should buy a lottery ticket.

 

[eagle_predator]

Re: Tigers V Sea Eagles Teams, News Stats & Chat

We have to win this game and bash em as well. And Corey Payne is on a contrary conduct charge he may get one week ?

 

[Duff]

Re: Tigers V Sea Eagles Teams, News Stats & Chat

Surely Cuthbo must come in. Des is kidding himself otherwise. Bryant or Willo have to go & when Jamie comes back, the other goes.

Full strength;
1 Brett
2 Robbo
3 Bell
4 Matai
5 Wookee
6 Lyon
7 Ox
8 King
9 Ballin
10 Kite
11 Choc (cut out the crap)
12 Hall
13 Glenn

14 L'Estrange
15 Perry
16 Cuthbo
17 Beaver

Surely nobody can argue that that team is our only chance of winning the comp & if Des chooses to go in another direction for any reason other than injury, we're stuffed.

I have no understanding how Cuthbo was first drop for King whilst Willo, Bryant & Hall all made it.

 

[Berkeley_Eagle]

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Payne cops one-match ban
http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,24211872-23214,00.html

    August 20, 2008

WESTS Tigers secondrower Corey Payne has accepted a one-match ban after entering an early guilty plea.
Payne was charged with making unnecessary contact with the face of Parramatta full-back Jarryd Hayne in Monday night's loss to the Eels.

Canberra forward Tom Learoyd-Lahrs is next to front the judiciary in a desperate attempt to keep his season alive.

Learoyd-Lahrs will dispute the grading of his grade-four dangerous throw charge which threatens to rule him out for up to seven weeks if he is found guilty.

A reduction to a grade-three charge would result in just a three-match ban, which would allow the former Brisbane backrower to return to the paddock in the first week of the finals.

Learoyd-Lahrs lifted Newcastle prop Ben Cross before driving the NSW Origin representative into the ground early in the second-half of Sunday's 38-18 win over the Knights.

The two other players charged from the weekend, Brisbane hooker Michael Ennis and Melbourne backrower Sika Manu, both took the early guilty plea but are free to play this weekend.

AAP

 

[Berkeley_Eagle]

Re: Tigers V Sea Eagles Teams, News Stats & Chat

Wests Tigers V Sea Eagles Preview
NRL.com
ANZ Stadium
Saturday 5.30pm
http://nrl.com/News/Latest/tabid/10244/default.aspx?id=52506


THIS is the first match of the NRL’s Saturday night double-header, and it should be the pick of the two games.

Both sides have plenty to play for, and both come into the match off the back of disappointing losses.

Manly may have thrown away their golden chance to win the coveted minor premiership when they went down in one of the upsets of the season to South Sydney.

Meanwhile the Wests Tigers may have given up much more when they surrendered meekly to the Eels and put their top-eight hopes in massive jeopardy.

Whether there’s a hoodoo against the Eels or not, the Tigers were horribly disappointing for a team hopeful making the finals.

Their ball handling was terrible and they virtually played the out-of-whack Eels back into form.

Wests Tigers have a horror run into the finals which starts this week against Manly, and giving up that match against Parramatta has made things extremely difficult for the 2005 premiers.

Manly were cruising just a couple of weeks ago, but all of a sudden after two straight losses, people are beginning to question their grand final credentials.

Without Jamie Lyon at five eighth, the Sea Eagles seem to be lacking something in attack, however the major worry against the Rabbitohs last week was attitude.

The Sea Eagles have boasted the best defence in the competition for the majority of the year and to concede 40 points against the team running third last wasn’t a good sign.

Manly turned up thinking they had the game won and that’s why they were beaten.

Last week was just one game and Manly have the opportunity to prove over the next three weeks leading into the finals that it was a mere blip on the radar.

Watch out Wests Tigers: The Tigers couldn’t handle Jarryd Hayne’s influence from the back this week, and if they couldn’t contain him then they might be in for one hell of an afternoon trying to tie down Manly fullback Brett Stewart.

The NSW no.1 can roam the field and find gaps at will and is certain to pose a constant threat.

Stewart has 11 line breaks and six try assists already this season and averages 125 running metres per game.

Also watch out for bruising centres Steve Matai (22 dominant tackles) and Steve Bell (32 one-on-one tackles) to cause the Tigers plenty of trouble.

Tigers’ centre Chris Lawrence (19 ineffective tackles) has struggled in defence all season and was found out badly last week against Parramatta, and Matai and Bell know all about overpowering their opposite numbers.

Watch out Sea Eagles: It’s not often that Robbie Farah (10 line breaks, 7 line-break assists and 12 try assists) and Benji Marshall (13 try assists and 11 line break assists) are quiet two weeks in a row and Manly will be on their guard.

The Wests Tigers’ halves are difficult to contain when operating their magic behind a dominant forward pack and they will know that they have to lift to get their team home.

Especially without a five-eighth of their own, Manly’s playmakers need to ensure they come up with enough plays to put Farah and Marshall out of action.

Where it will be won: Even though ball handling was what let the Wests Tigers down so badly last week, it was the poor performance of their forwards that was the major concern.

Front-rowers Keith Galloway (averages 109 metres per game) and Bryce Gibbs (just 92 metres per game on average) didn’t stand up to the more hungry Eels’ pack, and the Tigers’ bookends are going to have to step up to the challenge this week against rep props Brent Kite (averages 127 metres per game) and Josh Perry (averages 110 metres per game).

Kite in particular has been enormous for Manly this year and he too will lift after two straight losses.

The key for the Wests Tigers is shutting down Matt Orford. Without Lyon outside him, Orford looks devoid of options when put under pressure and that’s what the Tigers need to do.

However, it’s easier said than done, they need to dominate in other areas of the game as well before they can even begin to think about Orford.

There is no doubt that the likes of Orford and Anthony Watmough have been out of sorts in recent weeks and the Tigers need to pray that this stays the same, otherwise with an even share of possession, Manly should prove too good.

The History: Manly hold a six games to four advantage over the Wests Tigers and have won their past three meetings.

The two teams are yet to play at ANZ Stadium.

Conclusion: The Wests Tigers really need to start well otherwise they will implode like they did last week against Parramatta.

They are clearly a confidence team and need to play from in front.

On the other hand Manly will want to completely dominate their opponents.

A gritty win isn’t good enough for them here; they will want to grind the Wests Tigers into the dirt to remind themselves and the Melbourne Storm that they are indeed premiership material.

Match Officials: Referee – Tony Archer; Sideline Officials: Jeff Younis & Steve Carrall; Video Referee: Chris Ward.

Televised: Fox Sports 2 – Live 5.30pm.

 

[deadlyeagle]

Re: Tigers V Sea Eagles Teams, News Stats & Chat

I Personally don't mind a bench with:

Heath L'Estrange,
Luke Williamson,
Adam Cuthbertson,

This means we / Des has an option in attack (Cuthbo), an option in Defense (Willo), Creativity & Speed (L'estrange), and a big bopper against tiring defense in either :

Mark Bryant, Jason King

Of course i would choose King over Bryant if they are both 100% but if King is coming back from an injury you would go for Bryant.

 

[Berkeley_Eagle]

Re: Tigers V Sea Eagles Teams, News Stats & Chat

and when Lyon comes back ?

 

[eggson]

Re: Tigers V Sea Eagles Teams, News Stats & Chat

Well in the past it would be Hall and Bryant to miss out from the full squad.  But Des seems to be dropping Cuthbo more too so i'd imagine that one of those three would go when Lyon comes back, although Hall has been going great guns and Des has rewarded him with the starting spot. 
I just find it irky that Willo is on the bench.  To me his better games are when he does the full 80.  But i wouldn't know really, i just watch the game!

 

[deadlyeagle]

Re: Tigers V Sea Eagles Teams, News Stats & Chat

and when Lyon comes back ?

Well then when h comes back  there's a difference in what i would like to see and what des's "plans" are. If Lyon is back i would like to see.

Le'Strange
Beaver
Cuthbo
King (if fit) / Bryant

Beaver can take up willos defensive role sacrificing a little defensive skills for a lot more creativity, speed, attacking abilities eg offloads, linebreaks ect. But Menzies defensive technique is still top class & reliable.

 

[Berkeley_Eagle]

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WESTS TIGERS v MANLY at ANZ Stadium, Saturday 5.35pm
WESTS Tigers coach Tim Sheens has dropped forward Ben Te'o from his five-man bench to NSW Cup. He'll play for Balmain against Auckland. Manly have won their last three games against the joint venture team. It's the first time they've met at Homebush. The Sea Eagles are shooting for a fourth consecutive win over Wests Tigers. Manly have conceded 100 points in their last four games, losing three of them. They've lost three in a row at ANZ Stadium, too. Wests Tigers, conversely, have scored 92 in their last two appearances at ANZ Stadium.

 

[Berkeley_Eagle]

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Bench Choc

John Greco

22 August 2008
http://manlydaily.com.au/article/2008/08/22/11700_sports.html

EX-INTERNATIONAL Mark Carroll has urged Manly coach Des Hasler to drop Anthony Watmough to the bench to "shake up" his game before the NRL finals.

Carroll believes the Sea Eagles are lacking punch off the bench with Watmough the perfect player to provide an impact.

With the Sea Eagles desperate to arrest a worrying form slump over the past month before the play-offs, it may also give the out-of-sorts Watmough the boost he needs.

The 25-year-old was a key figure in the club's consistent start to the season, but has struggled since returning from knee surgery two weeks ago.

While he wasn't alone last Sunday, Watmough produced a display he may like to forget including five missed tackles in Manly's embarrassing 40-32 loss to the Rabbitohs.

"I'd have him off the bench," Carroll said of Watmough last night.

"His form has been a bit down but I think he's been playing injured as well.

"Manly need to shake things up a bit. He'd certainly give us some impact off the bench.

"Manly need him at his best ... it might be the shake up he needs."

Another former enforcer, Paul Harragon, told The Manly Daily last night that Watmough was still an important part of the Sea Eagles' premiership chances and is backing him to fire when it counts next month.

"Guys like 'Choc', Glenn Stewart and Menzies are as good as any backrowers around," the former Newcastle skipper said.

"You know they are going to play strong and perform when it counts.

"I don't see Manly's form as a concern, they are still genuine contenders with Melbourne."

Manly's slide over the past month looks to have cost the club a chance at the minor premiership not that Hasler is overly concerned.

"It's just a title where you are recognised as the most consistent side and you've played the most consistent footy all year," the Sea Eagles coach said. "We just want to win the next three games."

 

[Duff]

Re: Tigers V Sea Eagles Teams, News Stats & Chat

\"It's just a title where you are recognised as the most consistent side and you've played the most consistent footy all year,\" the Sea Eagles coach said. \"We just want to win the next three games.\"

It's also $100,000.00 & a bloody big shield.

 

[Jethro]

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[quote author=Berkeley_Eagle link=topic=178212.msg194207#msg194207 date=1219354138]
\"It's just a title where you are recognised as the most consistent side and you've played the most consistent footy all year,\" the Sea Eagles coach said. \"We just want to win the next three games.\"

It's also $100,000.00 & a bloody big shield.
[/quote]

And that $100,000.00 would certainly help to reduce our debt a little bit.

 

[Berkeley_Eagle]

Re: Tigers V Sea Eagles Teams, News Stats & Chat

toyota cup updates are here
http://www.silvertails.net/silvertails-forums/2008_toyota_cup_thread-t176948.300.html

 

[Kiwi Eagle]

Re: Tigers V Sea Eagles Teams, News Stats & Chat

Here is my big tip for the night

Matai to absolutely smash Laurie with the hit of the season