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The Road to Brookie

Discussion in 'Rugby League Forum' started by Jatz Crackers, Jun 11, 2014.

  1. Jatz Crackers

    Jatz Crackers Moderator Staff Member

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    http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/sydney-traffic/military-road-plan-sydneys-northern-beaches-look-to-be-major-beneficiaries-of-state-budget-transport-proposals-20140611-zs4cs.html

    Travel times on one of Sydney's worst commuter road journeys will be slashed and the Baird government will consider a new vehicle tunnel beneath Military Road under plans set to be announced in Tuesday's state budget.
    The measures affecting Pittwater, Spit and Military roads could provide relief to long-suffering motorists and potentially increase public transport use.
    It is understood the government will reveal plans for an above-ground ''rapid bus transit'' system between Mona Vale and central Sydney.
    Bus services between Spit Junction and Wynyard can vary from the timetable by up to 20 minutes and morning peak traffic can crawl along the Manly-Military-Spit roads arterial at an infuriating 18km/h.


    It is also understood the government will fund a feasibility study into building a vehicle tunnel that would allow commuters to avoid the bumper-to-bumper grind.
    Premier Mike Baird signalled on Wednesday that measures to relieve the thickened traffic artery, which passes through his electorate of Manly, were overdue.
    ''[The northern suburbs] have been ignored for too long … I'm happy to argue with anyone and everyone that we need these funds in our community. They will make a big difference,” he told the Mosman Daily.
    Bus rapid transit systems feature frequent services and exclusive roadway or priority over other modes of transport.
    A Transport for NSW pre-feasibility study in 2012 examined five options between Mona Vale and the city. They included a two-lane bus tunnel from Spit Junction to the Warringah freeway, establishing 24-hour bus lanes and widening the Spit Bridge to six lanes.
    Bus lanes could flow along the kerb or down the median. Depending on the option chosen, on-street parking could be removed and roadways widened.
    The study also canvassed an east-west option between Chatswood and Dee Why.
    It concluded bus rapid transit measures were feasible but prioritising buses by removing general traffic lanes would lead to longer trips for other vehicles.
    It is understood the government will proceed with an above-ground solution. However Mr Baird reportedly said he was ''committed to the tunnel; that remains a key objective''.
    ''A tunnel will deliver the most benefit in terms of travel time,'' he said. ''It will return Military Road to community use rather than transit use. It will help to take the congestion away, and that is desperately needed.''
    It is unclear if the government will investigate the use of a tunnel by both cars and buses.
    The announcement of a second rail crossing across the harbour has also raised the prospect that a northern beaches rail line could be back on the agenda.
    Documents obtained by Fairfax Media in January using freedom of information laws show officials working on the next extensions to the city's train system saw a northern beaches line as one of the first priorities after another harbour crossing is built.
    North Sydney Council has described the government's rapid bus study as ''inadequate'' because it did not consider other transport modes, including heavy and light rail.
    Mayor Jilly Gibson said an above-ground bus transit system would ''create a clearway right through our villages, through Neutral Bay and Cremorne, and it would effectively kill off those villages''.
    Manly mayor Jean Hay said a rail line to that suburb would bring higher densities, and would not have local support. Her council supports a bus rapid transit system, built down the middle of the road, adding ''[the road] is like a car park at the moment. It will make a huge difference as far as moving people.''
     
  2. Bearfax

    Bearfax Well-Known Member

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    Good to hear Jatz. But what time scale do we have here. A rail connection was proposed in the 1920s to the northern beaches. The North West train service has been on the burner for several decades. Badgery's Creek airport has been discussed since the 1960s. These feasibility studies are well and good, but until the money is forthcoming and work begins, its just feasibility. And even when work starts, such a major project could take well over a decade to finish.
     
  3. Peter C

    Peter C Well-Known Member

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    I live in the Sutherland Shire, we've been waiting for the F6 extension for fifty years now, the corridors are there at least, but will not happen in my lifetime, not enough votes to swing either way with it.
     
  4. EagleFromMay1967

    EagleFromMay1967 In bed before the room got dark.

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    Pie in the Sky feel good stories coming out of the Premier's office, trying to distract voters from the sale of public assets. The sale of suburban poles & wires would not pay for anything more than a quarter of the value of these promises, lovely though they'd be for the Manly Warringah district.
     
  5. Bearfax

    Bearfax Well-Known Member

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    Agreed Eagle. I'm totally opposed to the sale of public assets because once they are gone..they are gone...or in the hand of private companies who do little to improve systems and reduce reliability. The dismissal of postal workers and potential 3 day per week delivery of mail is crazy talk. Why not just raise the cost of a postal stamp or is that too logical...or not in the real agenda of these politicians
     
  6. Shoe1

    Shoe1 Well-Known Member

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    Everyone knows that Moses Obeid is up to his elbows in a power pole company. You'd think that the government would steer well clear of power poles as a target for privatisation in the current climate. Smartpoles will be 1st in the queue you watch.
    http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/smartpole-win-for-moses-obeid-20130201-2dp1v.html

    http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/outcry-as-dearer-contract-awarded-to-son-of-obeid/2008/12/21/1229794246605.html
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    Wonder how poles and wires made it on to the list for privatisation in the 1st place? I suspect it was on the list prior to this government coming in.
     
  7. Alan

    Alan Well-Known Member

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    Bear, I think the lack of desire to increase postage may be because this is seen as affecting old age pensioners the most.

    Also I think that Northern beaches residents will firebomb Macquarie street before they will let a train link to the beaches.
     
  8. Fluffy

    Fluffy Well-Known Member

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    If you think that due to Obeid being Labor then that is a risky approach as the ICAC is prooving there are a lot of didgy ties in both parties.

    What is worse is that there are a lot of people out there that know this, most jsut without too much detail as to events.
     

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