SMH interpretation vs Telegraph.

[Hamster Huey]

If SMH is 'leftie' then Bronwyn Bishop is a communist. Its just that the Telegraph is so right wing, its hard to see where the centre is.

SMH is left-leaning; Age is well to the left. DT will bag anybody, left or right, for a headline.

 

[MadMarcus]

Comparing the DT to the SMH is like comparing fact to fiction. Or the same as comparing science to the bible.

See you at church next Sunday then will i Bones ?

No Church next Sunday. The start of the season is still a few weeks off and even then there will hardly be any Sunday games.

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Comparing the DT to the SMH is like comparing fact to fiction. Or the same as comparing science to the bible.

See you at church next Sunday then will i Bones ?

No Church next Sunday. The start of the season is still a few weeks off and even then there will hardly be any Sunday games.

 

[Masked Eagle]

I'll start buying the telegraph again when they bring back the page 3 girls!

 

[The Wheel]

I think you mean the Daily Mirror ME?

 

[Masked Eagle]

I think you mean the Daily Mirror ME?

To be technical you are correct but its still the same paper really isn't it.

 

[Shoe1]

If SMH is 'leftie' then Bronwyn Bishop is a communist. Its just that the Telegraph is so right wing, its hard to see where the centre is.

SMH is left-leaning; Age is well to the left. DT will bag anybody, left or right, for a headline.

For much of its history the smh has been centre right. It's laughable to call it a lefty paper. The tele is a classic reactionary tabloid.

 

[Rex]

The smh presents news.
The telegraph presents opinion dressed up as news.

If you need to be told what to think then the choice is clear.

 

[eagle-rock08]

Apparently it was Perry's fault according to DT.

 

[Hamster Huey]

If SMH is 'leftie' then Bronwyn Bishop is a communist. Its just that the Telegraph is so right wing, its hard to see where the centre is.

SMH is left-leaning; Age is well to the left. DT will bag anybody, left or right, for a headline.

For much of its history the smh has been centre right. It's laughable to call it a lefty paper. The tele is a classic reactionary tabloid.

And the ABC used to be a great source for unbiased political news and current affairs.

Once you get a clique in place in such organisations, then without a true independent element to keep it in check, they will end up running the asylum.

Fairfax suffers from it currently in their attempt to get 'progressive' on such issues as climate, immigration, pc politics and environment; all issues that never sit front and centre in the minds for any length of time of any but the tiny minority they appear to be trying to please. They're like the dodgy uncle that hangs around the kids at the family gathering, trying to be cool but failing to connect to any by the most impressionable.

For at least the last 10 years the SMH has most definitely gone left, but I still respect their sportswriters efforts ahead of the DT in most cases.

 

[King]

The only thing the Daily Telegraph is good for is SuperCoach.

 

[Bearfax]

If SMH is 'leftie' then Bronwyn Bishop is a communist. Its just that the Telegraph is so right wing, its hard to see where the centre is.

SMH is left-leaning; Age is well to the left. DT will bag anybody, left or right, for a headline.

For much of its history the smh has been centre right. It's laughable to call it a lefty paper. The tele is a classic reactionary tabloid.

And the ABC used to be a great source for unbiased political news and current affairs.

Once you get a clique in place in such organisations, then without a true independent element to keep it in check, they will end up running the asylum.

Fairfax suffers from it currently in their attempt to get 'progressive' on such issues as climate, immigration, pc politics and environment; all issues that never sit front and centre in the minds for any length of time of any but the tiny minority they appear to be trying to please. They're like the dodgy uncle that hangs around the kids at the family gathering, trying to be cool but failing to connect to any by the most impressionable.

For at least the last 10 years the SMH has most definitely gone left, but I still respect their sportswriters efforts ahead of the DT in most cases.

Trouble is you've been saturated with basically Murdock and Singleton right wing propaganda for the past few decades, you cant recognise more centrist viewpoints as being anything but left wing. Telegraph, Commercial TV, 2GB etc all have a right wing stance. I'm no Gillard fan but seems anything she or her party does is bad and you hear that enough you come to believe it.

The ABC and SBS actually tell the news, not portray it as entertainment. They also give a very broad World view that doesnt take selective positions. SBS' World News gives a totally different feel about what is happening rather than some inane item as major news about Abbott jogging like they used to show Howard jogging to enhance his image.

Come on. Commercial stations are almost all slanted to the right to meet the interests of their business support in advertising and because they are owned by the elite. You're being saturated with it and dont realise it because you're so used to it. It seems the norm and anything left of that is socialist

 

[Shoe1]

If SMH is 'leftie' then Bronwyn Bishop is a communist. Its just that the Telegraph is so right wing, its hard to see where the centre is.

SMH is left-leaning; Age is well to the left. DT will bag anybody, left or right, for a headline.

For much of its history the smh has been centre right. It's laughable to call it a lefty paper. The tele is a classic reactionary tabloid.

And the ABC used to be a great source for unbiased political news and current affairs.

Once you get a clique in place in such organisations, then without a true independent element to keep it in check, they will end up running the asylum.

Fairfax suffers from it currently in their attempt to get 'progressive' on such issues as climate, immigration, pc politics and environment; all issues that never sit front and centre in the minds for any length of time of any but the tiny minority they appear to be trying to please. They're like the dodgy uncle that hangs around the kids at the family gathering, trying to be cool but failing to connect to any by the most impressionable.

For at least the last 10 years the SMH has most definitely gone left, but I still respect their sportswriters efforts ahead of the DT in most cases.

Yeah I agree they're left on pc issues.

 

[Hamster Huey]

If SMH is 'leftie' then Bronwyn Bishop is a communist. Its just that the Telegraph is so right wing, its hard to see where the centre is.

SMH is left-leaning; Age is well to the left. DT will bag anybody, left or right, for a headline.

For much of its history the smh has been centre right. It's laughable to call it a lefty paper. The tele is a classic reactionary tabloid.

And the ABC used to be a great source for unbiased political news and current affairs.

Once you get a clique in place in such organisations, then without a true independent element to keep it in check, they will end up running the asylum.

Fairfax suffers from it currently in their attempt to get 'progressive' on such issues as climate, immigration, pc politics and environment; all issues that never sit front and centre in the minds for any length of time of any but the tiny minority they appear to be trying to please. They're like the dodgy uncle that hangs around the kids at the family gathering, trying to be cool but failing to connect to any by the most impressionable.

For at least the last 10 years the SMH has most definitely gone left, but I still respect their sportswriters efforts ahead of the DT in most cases.

Trouble is you've been saturated with basically Murdock and Singleton right wing propaganda for the past few decades, you cant recognise more centrist viewpoints as being anything but left wing. Telegraph, Commercial TV, 2GB etc all have a right wing stance. I'm no Gillard fan but seems anything she or her party does is bad and you hear that enough you come to believe it.

The ABC and SBS actually tell the news, not portray it as entertainment. They also give a very broad World view that doesnt take selective positions. SBS' World News gives a totally different feel about what is happening rather than some inane item as major news about Abbott jogging like they used to show Howard jogging to enhance his image.

Come on. Commercial stations are almost all slanted to the right to meet the interests of their business support in advertising and because they are owned by the elite. You're being saturated with it and dont realise it because you're so used to it. It seems the norm and anything left of that is socialist

Please don't sell me short, BF. I can read and comprehend very clearly the level of analysis, coverage and general view of a media organisation. I'm not a sheltered individual happy to listen and accept the status quo or loudest voice.

Check out the comments for many of the Fairfax opinion pieces and tell me it isn't targetting progressives, or watch Q&A, Sunrise or The Project and convince me they don't have a love-in for that which is not 'right'.

As for the ABC, you can't seriously believe that there is a balance in their news/opinions these days. Presenters and commentators that can't help but provide soft judgement/support for the 'progressive' view, and harsh analysis of that that isn't.

I have no interest in bagging anybody's own personal opinions on subjects, left or right. That is their right, but as somebody that holds a genuine centrist view and a swinging voter between the major parties, I can read/watch and get the sense of which way an organisation leans at the moment. I stand by my assessment.

 

[Rex]

Commercial interests tell us - the populace - what to think. They tell the government what to do. We are far more programmed than we would dare think. The Murdochs of this world are the rulers of our minds, hearts and deeds.

If you don't look at every ad, every news item, every current affairs program, and even every recommendation by your local GP with an eye to seeing what commercial interests might be actively seeking to distort and pollute your beliefs, then you will be fooled every time.

To see and admit and accept we are mere puppets of corporate interests is the beginning of the breaking of those puppet strings.

 

[MadMarcus]

That is a very sad and paranoid analysis Rex.

Unfortunately I think it is entirely correct.