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Simon Dwyer

Discussion in 'Rugby League Forum' started by swoop, Jun 25, 2011.

  1. swoop

    swoop Well-Known Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    After he was knocked out the trainers tried to stand him up and walk him off the field. I believe that was done because of the rew rule about players not being allowed back on the field unless the team doctor performs certain tests to determine whether he is well enough to go back on. This has put club doctors under pressure to try and fudge the results with little regard for the player.

    The guy had pins and needles in his arms and shoulder, they should have got the stretcher out there and a neck brace. This I feel should be looked at the the NRL as this player could have had spinal injuries and the trainers could have made the situation much much worse.
     
  2. Wolfpack

    Wolfpack Well-Known Member

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    Yeah to even think about moving a guy who had just copped a hit like that was incredibly irresponsible. Most, if not all of those guys would have at least basic FA training yeah? They should know better.

    What about his teammates? They should be reassuring him & encouraging him to keep still until first aiders get there, I'm constantly perplexed by rugby league players standing there like idiots staring at their injured teammates lying on the ground, F'n geese.
     
  3. Pearso

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    I don't think he was concussed, you could see when he was on his back he was trying to get up and nothing wasn't working and he was really fighting to sit up, that should have had alarm bells ringing and the medi cab straight out there.

    That was a bad look for our game trying to walk him off the field.
     
  4. DSM5

    DSM5 Well-Known Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Tigers club is in disarray. No idea about what to do about injured players. The guy knocked at the end (Fulton?) was lolling about with no assistance from other tigers players. Hopeless.
     
  5. Captain of the Gate

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    The concussion rule is a farce, guys who are obviously concussed are being "diagnosed" as being fine by their team doctors cause of club pressue. The test should be done by an independant Doc.

    Also Dwyer highlighted something else for me. That guy was never fit to walk. I'd like to see something similar to the NFL where if you have to come out and there is any chance of neck or head injury or if you have pins and needles you must be medicabbed off for your own safety. Forget the bull about players wanting to look tough by walking. Safety first in these situations even if it does seem over the top in most situations.
     
  6. torana355

    torana355 Well-Known Member Premium Member

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    Yep the poor bloke is still in hospital with pins and needles in his arm and suspected neck nerve damage. Its a disgrace he was not put on a stretcher with a neck brace to be taken off the field.
     
  7. eagles2win

    eagles2win Well-Known Member

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    Robbie Farrah said his gone for the season
     
  8. Dan

    Dan Administrator Staff Member Administrator 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Pinched nerve. They diagnosed it on the field. They shouldn't have moved him but he had movement in his arms and legs just sporadic.
     
  9. bones

    bones Bones Knows Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Just because it didn't look good doesn't mean they did the wrong thing. I'm sure the Tigers have adequate medical staff and he would not have been moved if it wasn't OK for them to do so. IMO it's channel 9 who erred by letting footage of Simon Dwyer getting escorted from the field go to air. Its like when a knee is bent the wrong way or when George Rose broke his leg for example. Why do they show replay after replay? No need for it.
    In any case I wish him (Dwyer) a speedy and full recovery. He is a very good player. I like his agression. I would have had him on the bench for the Blues if I were a selector.
     
  10. swoop

    swoop Well-Known Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    That makes it more irresponsible if it was diagnosed om the field. Something should be done. I'm amazed none of the media or even the commentators said anything. This is a major concern and I'd like to think that if one of our players, or in fact any other player, was in the same situation that the training staff would err on the side of caution rather than to see what happened last night again. Liam Fulton was also concussed late in the game and stumbled over a few times but I didn't see what the trainers did with him.
     
  11. Wolfpack

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    They still shouldn't have moved him or even encouraged him to move himself, thats just some FA 101 basic s**t.

    Hopefully Dwyer doesn't have any lasting injury from the contact & the tigers kick themselves into gear after reviewing their reaction to the incident.
     
  12. Masked Eagle

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    Did they try and rush Dwyer back into the defensive line? Didn't they stop play for Dwyer when he was down?
     
  13. ERNIE FOR NO7

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    he looked like he was spastic when he was walking off. He had zero coordination. I have never seen anything like it - couldnt believe they were walking him.
     
  14. swoop

    swoop Well-Known Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    So you are fine with it? The fact that they stopped play and didn't rush him back into the defensive line makes it alright?

    The fact that he had pins and needs in the arm is a fairly good warning that something wrong and when they said he wasn't concussed but couldn't walk should have sent alarm bells off.
     
  15. SeaEagleRock8

    SeaEagleRock8 Sea Eagle Lach Staff Member Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Bones you should consider giving out a few more 'likes' to other posts, in light of how many you have received.
    (Otherwise karma may catch up with you lol)
     
  16. ALinda

    ALinda Well-Known Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Not just his legs, he didn't have proper control of his head either. It was a dreadful look and disgraceful treatment by the Tigers medical staff, not only of Dwyer but also of Liam Fulton.
    Triple M and 2GB both got stuck into the Tigers CEO today about it and he said there'll be a review of such medical procedures with the NRL - and so there should!
     
  17. Rex

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    Sounds like blind faith, unsupported supposition, to me Bones. It was obvious to a blind alley cat that Dwyer was in serious trouble when they helped him off the field. And it was obvious it could be spinal related.

    As it turned out, after making him walk all that distance, they later needed to put a neck brace on him, strap him to a trolley and wheel him to the ambulance. An effective admission that they got it badly wrong in the first instance.

    Swoop is spot on. And without Ch 9 showing things like this, how is better accountability established ... by a court case 10 years later? Shooting the messenger won't achieve a lot.
     
  18. swoop

    swoop Well-Known Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    It was obvious Dwyer was legless and that fact should of told them something is seriously wrong. Ch9 might have done every rugby league player a favour in showing what not to do when a player is injured.
     
  19. bones

    bones Bones Knows Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    I didn't know it kept a record of it otherwise I would. How do I see the numbers?
     

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