Silvertails winning matches on the seventh tackle.

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Brissie Kid

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NRL's confused clock ruling may have cost Newcastle Knights a shot at victory
May 20, 2014 - 6:21PM
Roy Masters

Another thrilling finish. Another NRL cock-up?

Manly won Monday night’s match with a field goal but confused rulings over time off in the thrilling final minutes raised the possibility Newcastle still had an opportunity to win.

The referee correctly allowed the clock to stop after Newcastle’s Darius Boyd had earlier failed with a field goal attempt, but inexplicably did not call time out when Manly’s Jack Littlejohn was also unsuccessful.

The Sea Eagles won the match 15-14 when Daly Cherry-Evans kicked a one-pointer, from a seventh-tackle play-the-ball with five seconds left on the TV time clock.

The NRL introduced a rule this year which does not allow time off in the final five minutes of a game, except for mandated stoppages.

Most coaches, and probably all fans, believed that time off was only called following a conversion, a successful penalty kick at goal or field goal, with play restarted at the centre of the half way line: rule 2(a).

However, rule 2(b) also says time out applies in the final five minutes of a match “following an unsuccessful penalty kick at goal or field goal that goes in touch in-goal or over the dead-ball line.”

The NRL’s general manager of football operations Nathan McGuirk confirmed the referee was correct in calling time out following Boyd’s failed attempt but could not explain why he did not stop the clock following Littlejohn’s attempt.

Fans contacting the Herald have calculated Newcastle still had 11 seconds left following Cherry-Evans' successful attempt, if the time out had been called.

A short kick-off, yielding a penalty, could have seen the Knights win the game.

Following the controversial end to the Melbourne versus St George Illawarra game, referees have been pedantic about ruling full-time, blowing it during a play-the-ball and disregarding scrums already packed by the trailing team.

Yet, as one fan asked, “If the NRL is taking the stance that the blowing of the full-time siren and the referee calling full-time must be precise to the second, then how come the referees are not applying Rule 2(b) the instant the missed field goal crosses the dead ball line?”

When explaining the new rules back in April, the NRL did not mention that unsuccessful field goals would result in time off.

And the NRL's 2014 rule 2(b), unlike 2(a), doesn't say when or where time on restarts.

If fans, and some of the NRL’s top coaches, don’t know the rules, rugby league could end up like rugby union. Fans with long memories are accustomed to the Silvertails winning matches on the seventh tackle.

This time, however, the Sea Eagles were legitimately allowed an extra tackle.

Another rule, also introduced this season, awards possession at the 20-metre line, plus seven tackles, to a team following a kick by the opposition that goes dead.

It was designed to stop the negative tactic of teams kicking the ball over the dead-ball line in order to eat up the clock, or prevent brilliant fullbacks returning the ball.

The rules have, as the Herald predicted earlier this year, meant unsuccessful field goals at one end of the field are punished by successful ones at the other end.

Furthermore, it has also caused the near-death of golden point.

Ironically, the losing coach on Monday night – Newcastle’s Wayne Bennett – is a member of the rules committee which introduced seventh-tackle field goals.


Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/nrls-confused-clock-ruling-may-have-cost-newcastle-knights-a-shot-at-victory-20140520-zrj3a.html
 
He is still a bitter old C and he is drawing a long bow saying knights would won if the stopped the clock with 11 seconds to go......
 
WTF - '..Fans with long memories are accustomed to the Silvertails winning matches on the seventh tackle...' - Watch the replay of the 1995 GF for 7 tackle wins, Roy :mad:

'..A short kick-off, yielding a penalty, could have seen the Knights win the game...' - or not as Manly would have got a penalty if it didn't go 10 meters :cool:

Gidley's taking 15 minutes to kick try conversions probably pissed off the Pinkos :cool:

Roy just can not live in the present :dodgy:
 
"A short kickoff yielding a penalty"

Wow now that is clutching at straws. First of all gidley couldn't convert one from 30m out almost in front he sure ain't going to do it from 40 out and wide.

And that is a whole lot of speculation.
 
"A short kickoff yielding a penalty"

I think that actually happened earlier this season in the final 10 seconds of the Storm Panthers game. Wallace missed the penalty shot though.
 
ok i just watched the end of the game again.

When Littlejohn's shot goes over the deadball line and until the Knights take the tap there is 7 seconds used up but timeoff is not called.

When Boyd's goes over the deadball line about 4 seconds later the referee calls time off. It takes Manly then another 7 seconds to get the tap done.

As Manly's last play the ball was 5 seconds from fulltime if the referee hadn't called timeoff after Boyd's miss and saved the 7 seconds then the siren would have gone off before Manly got that last play the ball in.

Could also say that Manly were robbed of the 11 seconds too as they could have taken more time with that final set.

Why the referees failed to call time off after Littlejohn's miss is a fair enough question though.
 
If gurt kidley hadn't taken an age to kick goals the knights would have had an additional 5 mins or so of playing time, he is as much of a time waster as scum smith
 
Maybe so but it's pedantic in the extreme.
Next someone could go back through an entire game and find time discrepancies galore...Minutes even!

And this very long bow is being drawn by a dinosaur with a massive agenda against Manly.

YAWN.
 
If Newcastle were a better team they would have won by plenty. If they ran to every scrum they would have had more game time to win. If they got off tackled players quicker Manly would have gotten through their set quicker thus giving the Druggies the ball back earlier. If Newcastle didn't make mistakes then Manly would have had less ball and I assume scored less points.
 
I'm in my element with this one, courtesy of Greg Hartley: :)

Manly have a LONG tradition of winning matches on the 7th tackle. Take for example the 1976 GF, many of the matches during the Hartley ref'd 1978 finals series, and many others, too numerous to mention. There'll only ever be one . . . etc. So if we beat Drugcastle on a 7th tackle, its business as usual, so there shouldn't be any fuss ok ? :)
 
I think you're all missing the main thing. The referees wrongly didn't stop the clock after Littlejohn's kick. If they had have made the same stuff up following the Boyd kick Manly would not have got into the Knights half of the field & DCE wouldn't have got in a kick to win the game.
 
Roy, if I could smack your face, and smack it hard I would. I don't need to as you have lost all sensibility a long time ago.
 
RiverEagle said:
Maybe so but it's pedantic in the extreme.
Next someone could go back through an entire game and find time discrepancies galore...Minutes even!

And this very long bow is being drawn by a dinosaur with a massive agenda against Manly.

YAWN.

Its as moronic as the writer :dodgy:

But last year our Tigers game at Campbeltown was dissected to the minute - pictures of every f@ing scrum, to show how much time is being wasted.

Buzz the Roy wanabe:
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/phil-rothfield-discovers-monday-nights-nrl-match-between-the-tigers-and-sea-eagles-saw-only-49-minutes-of-game-time/story-fni3fbgz-1226689722074

He could do an expose on the Scumos lifting tackles on Hiku and Choc, that are directly correlated to life changing injuries. :idea:
 
Jeez those Mighty Manly Sea Eagles p*** people off when they win in the dying seconds.:p
Loving it.
 
The Knights were all collapsed on the ground moaning and gnashing their teeth in despair for at least 30 seconds, so they wouldn't have done their short kick-off, got their penalty (lol) or Gidley kicked a goal (double lol) anyway.
 

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