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Sam Burgess says Steve Matai's hit

Discussion in 'Rugby League Forum' started by swoop, May 1, 2013.

  1. swoop

    swoop Well-Known Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    on his brother and South Sydney teammate George was fair

    Paul Crawley
    The Daily Telegraph
    May 01, 2013 12:00AM

    SAM Burgess has labelled the tackle that landed Steve Matai a one-match ban "a fair hit" and admits he started throwing punches because his brother George was lying flat on his back.

    Burgess' frank admission will further infuriate Manly after they entered early guilty pleas for both Matai and Richie Fa'aoso yesterday - but not before coach Geoff Toovey unloaded on the judiciary process and match officials.

    Manly will be without Matai for one game while Fa'aoso will miss eight games for his two spear tackles on Greg Inglis.

    Brett Stewart also accepted the early plea for his elbow on Andrew Everingham but is free to play against the Dragons on Monday.

    Burgess was reluctant to comment about the Matai tackle that sparked Friday night's brawl but did concede: "I actually thought it was a fair hit at the time. My intention wasn't to start a fight."

    Asked why he reacted, Burgess questioned: "You got any brothers? It was the first time I have seen it (happen to George) so it was natural, I guess."

    His admission only adds weight to Manly's theory that Matai is a marked man.

    Daly Cherry-Evans called it "a cracker of a hit" and said he was surprised Matai was even facing a charge. "We see those sort of tackles week after week and no one else seems to cop any grunt from it," Cherry-Evans said.

    "It's just because, unfortunately, Steve's built up a bit of a resume when it comes to the judiciary."

    Manly's young winger Jorge Taufua could hardly contain his excitement when asked about the Matai tackle.

    "Are you allowed to swear? That was f ... in' awesome, man," Taufua said. "I love playing outside that guy. When he pulls it off, I just lose it."

    Which is pretty much what Toovey did as he attempted to explain why it was a waste of time to even bother fighting the charge at the judiciary.

    "You're damned if you do, damned if you don't. That's the way the system is set up," an exasperated Toovey said.

    "Unfortunately with Stevie's record people think the worst. Officials on the field thought it was OK. We've looked at it 1000 times. You can't positively say he did or didn't (make contact with the head).

    "Unfortunately you've got to prove your innocence. How can you do that when the camera angles aren't there? They just speculate he did hit him.

    "If you ask me and the fans they thought it was a great game, they thought it was a great tackle."

    Toovey said he had not spoken to referees boss Daniel Anderson about several contentious calls that went against his team but he did speak to Anderson's offsider, former referee Russell Smith.

    Asked how it went, Toovey said: "As I said, it's just a waste of time. Why bother?"

    Meanwhile, Burgess backed calls for the return of the sin bin for repeated foul play after he initially raised the argument immediately after Matai was placed on report.

    Burgess said: "No way am I saying that when someone gets on report it should be a sin binning because that's stupid.

    But when there are four incidents in one game and two of them are identical then you have got to think how many times do we keep putting people on report for these incidents before we are going to sin bin someone?"

    Newcastle prop Kade Snowden is free to play Cronulla on Sunday after pleading guilty to a grade two careless high tackle.

  2. Moondog

    Moondog Grey-beard loon Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    I would have been more impressed if he had fronted the judiciary and said it was a fair tackle.
    I don't give a **** what he's got to say now.
  3. MissKate

    MissKate Well-Known Member Premium Member

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    also makes Manly look stupid for not contesting the charge. I would rather they contested the charge and lost than just perpetuate the 'Matai is a dirty player' myth
  4. manlyfan76

    manlyfan76 Parra Trolls are the best. Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Flat on his back? No he was laying on his yellow belly.
  5. mozgrame

    mozgrame Well-Known Member

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    He was certainly sat on his fat arse! I love Steve Matai!!
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  6. Dee Why Eagle

    Dee Why Eagle Well-Known Member

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  7. lsz

    lsz Well-Known Member Staff Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    He said at the time...which could mean after he saw the replay he thought it was high....
  8. DSM5

    DSM5 Well-Known Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Very disappointed in the club. Why don't they protect the players from this sort of witch hunt. Do the players lose a bit of heart over the club not going in to bat for them?
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  9. manlywarringah

    manlywarringah Well-Known Member Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    While i'm furious the match review committee even charged Steve Matai, i am more furious we didn't even contest it.

    We (Steve) would've won the case. The first hit was clearly acrosss the chest and that's all that we needed to show.

    And for once i disagree with Toovs. I think the camera angles clearly show the first point of contact. With ex-footballers on the panel, they would've agreed it was a great, fair hit.
  10. jbb/james

    jbb/james Well-Known Member

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    What we really need is Glen Burgess to come out and say he didnt hit me in the head. That would be classy if it is true
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  11. RL Gronk

    RL Gronk New Member

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    Or better still George Burgess say he didn't hit me in the head:D
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  12. jbb/james

    jbb/james Well-Known Member

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    or even matai
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  13. Bradza

    Bradza Well-Known Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    I think it's pretty obvious that he didn't hit Glen Burgess in the head! George? well that's another matter..............
  14. manlyfan76

    manlyfan76 Parra Trolls are the best. Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    He's just sooking because Foz gave him a belting. He should retreat back into his mummies arms and say nothing.
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  15. eagle-rock08

    eagle-rock08 Active Member

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    So NRL Sam Burgess has admitted throwing punches.

    So why was he not sent off as third man in?

    So why was/is he not placed on report?

    So why was he not sin-binned?

    So why is he not facing the judiciary?

    As I have continually said. All we fans want is a consistency-based approach on each incident not based on the person or the club.

    So NRL, again do the letters stand for No Real Leadership or the National Rugby League?

    You decide.
  16. MissKate

    MissKate Well-Known Member Premium Member

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    or more appropriately georgette burgess
  17. Kiwi Eagle

    Kiwi Eagle Moderator Staff Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Burgess pushed Matai, then Foran followed him and threw a couple, if 1 went, both of them would have, right call to leave them both on the field, there was stuff all in it

    No reason to front the judiciary over that either, and again, if Burgess was up infront of them, Foran would be there beside him

    They have gotten everything spot on with the 'fight' thing imo. If anyone got suspended for that, when there was nothing in it, then they may as well change it to the National Netball League

    Personally, I have no issue at all with Burgess coming in with a shove in the back after seeing his brother get smashed, and I have no issue at all with Foran heading after him after seeing Matai get pushed.
    1 of the highlights of the game was Burgess taking a hitup the next set, he knew he was going to be smashed, and our boys obliged, but he didn't go soft and avoid the hitup like I have seen many other forwards do
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    MANLY4LIFE Well-Known Member

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    Glen sorry George ha ha won't admit it because the cat stayed down on purpose to milk it anyway all the while looking up at the ref to see what he could get out of the situation ,no way he will admit it now after that world class piece of acting !
  19. Brissie Kid

    Brissie Kid Well-Known Member

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    Shouldn't have been called a penalty in the first place. Should have just put the scrum down and got on with the game.
  20. Shoe1

    Shoe1 Well-Known Member

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    Maybe we can get glen butriss to testify too.

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