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Reserve grade superstars

Discussion in 'Rugby League Forum' started by Shoe1, Sep 20, 2010.

  1. Shoe1

    Shoe1 Well-Known Member

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    I read with interest the continual slapping down of players like Mullane, Bailey, Cuthbo etc.

    Over the last 30 years I've seen more reserve grade games than I care to remember..

    I recall the odd player who was really head and shoulders above other reserve graders, who then went on to fail in 1st grade. Some are:

    Jye Mullane - he was in 1st grade when he came to NE/Manly with a dodgy knee I think. Once he was dropped and recovered, he carved up a few reserve grade teams in the centres. Made some remarkable breaks.

    Sam Murphy - looked like he would score whenever he would get the ball (in reserves). Beat Mark Gerrard to a contract, so I'm told - neck and neck as juniors.

    Brett Atkins - a 2nd rower with great pace, who went the length of the field many times in reserves. Had a brief 1st grade career as a winger with the raiders? later in career, but early promise failed to materialise.

    Mark Pocock - was really hard to stop in reserves, fringe first grader.

    Cuthbertson - saw him hit holes and score from 30-40m out a few times, a real matchwinner.

    Phil Morwood - Flegg player of the year at one time

    The jump from 2nds to 1sts is a big one.

    Other "solid reserve graders" like Glenn Stewart end up playing for Australia, go figure.
     
  2. Shoe1

    Shoe1 Well-Known Member

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  3. Fro

    Fro Well-Known Member

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    Maybe you could use the second post to tell us what you are actually gettign at?

    I can't tell if you are sticking up for the numpties, or saying they are hopeless??
     
  4. Shoe1

    Shoe1 Well-Known Member

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    The point: blokes can be fantastic in reserves, and crap in 1sts. It's a gamble & signings don't always work out well.

    Reason for posting: boredom / no more games this year / nostalgia / reaching out to fellow fans
     
  5. Fro

    Fro Well-Known Member

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    Cool, now i get where you are coming from.

    and you are right, its not often the stars can achieve what they do without a healthy dose of a work ethic as well. Pure talent can only get so far.
     
  6. Kiwi Eagle

    Kiwi Eagle Moderator Staff Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    That huge tongan unit always looked the goods in reserve grade, Sione Finefuiaki or something like that

    Afamasaga looked awesome in reserves as well
     
  7. lsz

    lsz Well-Known Member Staff Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Frank Stokes....

    We had a goal kicking Kiwi guy in the early to mid 90's - Lavea (??) who looked awesome
     
  8. Kiwi Eagle

    Kiwi Eagle Moderator Staff Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Lavea was rookie of the year for the Storm in 1999, think he was with us around 2002 or 3
     
  9. Guest

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    tasesa  or something like that, i remember when he was at melbourne had a blinder in his 1st yr, then had that 2nd yr syndrome  & was released by them..
     
  10. Guest

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    yeah kiwi i just posted something similar..
     
  11. Rambo1987

    Rambo1987 Well-Known Member

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    Mark Pocock got to play in the 1987 Grand Final - would give a good account of himself. He still managed to play 45 first grade games.
     
  12. lsz

    lsz Well-Known Member Staff Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Not that guy...

    Just hit me! Billy Weepu was his name (i think)
     
  13. CliffyIsGod

    CliffyIsGod Well-Known Member

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    Watmog... now look...
     
  14. Fro

    Fro Well-Known Member

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    His Brother or Cousin or something is the All Blecks halfback.
     
  15. Normie

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    I remember back in the good old days when Manly's reserve grade side would have beaten most of the comps 1st grade sides! Arko and his creative accounting........
     
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    Adam Brown

    Josh Smith

    Jason Lussick

    among others...
     
  17. Moops

    Moops Well-Known Member

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    Not the '91 reserve grade side. They didn't win a game, did they? :)
     
  18. eagleE

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    Shoe1, the flip side is guys who have tonnes of talent and just dont fulfill that talent. I remember Jamie Oljenick(sorry if spelt incorrectly) playing for us in the early-mid 90s. Some used to say he was as good as Fittler. Didn't go very far but.
    I remember Sam Murphy. So much said about him and he only played a few minutes of 1st grade.
    Other players that were great reserve graders.
    Luke Dorn.
    Michael Bani.
    Grant Wooden.
     
  19. SeaEagleRock8

    SeaEagleRock8 Sea Eagle Lach Staff Member Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    My favourite reserve grader was Max Krilich. He was clearly a class player yet was stuck in reserves for several years. Never left for greener pastures. Of course when he finally got his start he became an international and test captain.
     
  20. Kiwi Eagle

    Kiwi Eagle Moderator Staff Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Don't know if he would have been a goal kicker ? 130kg front rower from the few times I saw him play. His nephew Piri is certainly a good kicker though

    Here is a name to throw out there for the older blokes.
    Does anybody remember a guy by the name of Mark Edward playing for Manly back in the 70s ?
     

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