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R15 MANLY NSW CUP V BULLDOGS

Discussion in 'Rugby League Forum' started by Fairy Bower, Jun 18, 2013.

  1. Fairy Bower

    Fairy Bower Active Member

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    A few returning faces this week from injury & NRL duty - Jacob Gagen, Nick Skinner & James Hasson. A few positional changes too as Chisholm returns to the halves, Esi Tonga on to the wing and Clinton Gutherson gets another shot at fullback.

    Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs Vs Manly Sea Eagles
    Belmore Sports Ground, Saturday, June 22
    Kick-off: 3.00pm

    Referee: Daniel Olford
    Broadcast: www.nswrl.com.au’s NSWRL Match Centre Scoreboard


    1. Clinton Gutherson
    2. Ben Farrar
    3. Jacob Gagan
    4. Troy Savage
    5. Esi Tonga
    6. Dane Chisholm
    7. Zac Nicholls
    8. James Hasson
    9. Liam Higgins
    10. Ligi Sao
    11. Kayse Greer
    12. Nick Skinner
    13. Dylan Strickland

    14. Jackson Williams
    15. Dylan Kelly
    16. James Cunningham
    17. Justin Lemalu
    21. Ben Musolino

    COACH: Luke Williamson

    http://www.nswrl.com.au/default.aspx?s=article-display&id=77303&title=vb-nsw-cup-team-lists---round-fifteen
     
  2. Fairy Bower

    Fairy Bower Active Member

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    Here is the Bulldogs team;

    1. Drury Low
    2. Ryan Wilson
    3. Brett Lane
    4. Ed Murphy
    5. John Sila
    6. Kris Keating
    7. Jack Littlejohn
    8. Martin Taupau
    9. Moses Mbye
    10. Junior Palau
    11. Lachlan Burr
    12. Paul Carter
    13. Harlan Alaalatoa

    14. Steve Azzi
    15. Josh Gill
    16. Garet Shepardson
    17. John Kite

    COACH: Barry Ward
     
  3. Bearfax

    Bearfax Well-Known Member

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    Still no Chee-Kam FB. Whats the gos FB.
     
  4. tookey

    tookey Well-Known Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Also no Seage still. Is he injured?

    Heard the dogs wanted him before 30 June and may sign him up for next year
     
  5. Fairy Bower

    Fairy Bower Active Member

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    Chee-kam is running well I believe but not being rushed by medical staff. Seage also running after injuring his leg about a month ago so maybe not rushing him either. Haven't heard the Seage to Dogs rumour but might be right as Ive heard Keating wants to go back to the Eels.
     
  6. The Who

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    FB, you know all about our reserves which, unfortunately, very few fans get to watch play these day. Can you provide reasons why we are so poor? At the start of the season we thought we had a lot a great new recruits and would give the comp a real shake. On paper we seem to have a talented bunch. I watched them beat the Vulcans in the opening round and they were impressive, albeit with Tom Symonds.
    I welcome your insignts.
    Likewise the Under 20s. I've seen them many times and they seem to get outmuscled. They are alright in possession, but don;t seem to want to tackle.
     
  7. The Eagle Has Landed

    The Eagle Has Landed Well-Known Member

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    Anyone know how Ligi Sao is performing?
     
  8. Fairy Bower

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    Ligi is going well. In fact I thought he should have been called up to the NRL before George on form.
     
  9. Fairy Bower

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    The Who, I thought the same as you at the start of the year. Many new players came into the joint like a breath of fresh air. In the initial stages we just weren't gelling and we turned over a lot of ball. Many of the players are in the NRL squad and they train there most of the week and they see coach Willo for one field session per week. Outside of that they don't see the coach. I'm told that there is not a lot of feedback from the coach and no wonder as they only sight each other for 1 hour a week.

    Then came the horror run with injuries (and suspension) to NRL & reserve grade, Snake, King, Galuvao, Fa'aoso meant Rose, Hasson, Hiku and Gower had to be elevated. Then injuries to reserves Chee-Kam, Farrar, Seage, Skinner, Gagen, Sene-Lafao & one or two others at different stages.

    Not having two experienced halves has cost us dearly with Seage out and Chisholm sent to FB.

    Despite all this in many games we have competed well in stages with the players having a real dig.

    I just hope we can get the players back from injury and become really competitive in the remaining rounds.
     
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  10. The Who

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    Thanks for the feedback FB. The one-hour training with the coach seems strange. Do all clubs do this? Does this mean Willo has other duties and/or another job?
     
  11. Fairy Bower

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    I think Willo takes the NSW cup contracted players for extra sessions but does not include the NRL squad members who play NSW cup. I think Willo doubles as education officer for the club.
     
  12. bigd1972

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    Anyone know what has happened to Jesse? When is he expected back?
     
  13. Pittwater Legend

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    It seems that Gutherson and Ligi are very highly rated by the club which is good to see. I think Ligi is only 20 yet they're starting the game with him.

    I had high hopes for Cunningham but it seems as though he may turn out like Vic Mauro but he may never even make first grade. Earlier in the season I would not have picked Gagen moving into the centres with Tonga playing on the wing but that is where we are at now.

    Also a wise move to keep Chee-Kam on ice. If they do have plans to put him in first grade this season then he needs to get to full fitness.
     
  14. Bearfax

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    Noticed also that many of the U20s squad are only 18 or less. Trbojevic and Gutherson are both 18. A lot of the squad could be playing U20s next year also if they are retained.
     
  15. The Who

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    Gee I wish they revamped the Under 20 competition and relegated it in importance. We should be watching the reserve grade as the lead into the first grade. Under 20s is really junior football - especially the way we play. You can guarantee they will let in at least five tries every match.
     
  16. mosto

    mosto Well-Known Member Premium Member

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    Agreed TW. Hopefully some of the money from the new tv deal can be allocated to funding a proper reserve grade comp. I get to Brookie, 3/4 times a year and try to work it when all three grades are playing.

    Very few kids a blooded directly from 20's now, as most clubs are giving them a run in NSW/Qld Cup first, as we are with Sao and Gutherson.
     
  17. Fairy Bower

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    NSW Cup preview from http://www.nswrl.com.au/default.aspx?s=article-display&id=77578&title=vb-nsw-cup-previews---round-fifteen

    Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs Vs Manly Sea Eagles
    Belmore Sports Ground, Saturday, June 22

    Kick-off: 3.00pm
    Referee: Daniel Olford
    Broadcast: www.nswrl.com.au’s NSWRL Match Centre Scoreboard

    Summary: After their loss to the Tigers last weekend, it is well and truly desperation stakes now for the Bulldogs. Lying at the foot of the table as we enter Round 15, the Dogs are six competition points as well as around 100 points for and against outside of the top eight. Manly find themselves in only a marginally better situation with two more competition points but a significantly worse for and against than the Dogs. Manly should head into this game feeling fresh having had their first bye of the season last weekend while the Dogs will be happy to return to Belmore after a few weeks away from home. For Manly, NSW U20 player Clinton Gutherson will jump into fullback with Chisholm moving to six and Savage shifting from the backrow to his more favoured centre position while for the Dogs, Moses Mybe replaces Joel Romelo at hooker and Ryan Wilson comes onto the wing with Brett Lane shifting into the centres to cover the loss of Tim Lafai.

    Talking Point: Flick the switch – This particular writer has long been an advocate of moving Dane Chisholm from fullback into the halves for Manly. In defence of Luke Williamson, perhaps he has been waiting for the right man to become available to replace him at the back, and finally that has happened. With Manly having the bye in both the NRL and Holden Cup this weekend, the club has seen this as a golden opportunity to give Clinton Gutherson a run in the VB NSW Cup team at fullback. This now allows Chisholm to be freed up and moved into the six jersey where he can get his hands on the ball far more frequently, and that can only be a good thing for a Manly side that has the worst attack in the competition through 14 rounds of play. If everything goes well this weekend, we may be seeing more of Gutherson in the VB NSW Cup as a result.

    Prediction: Any result here would not come as a shock but will stick the neck out and tip Manly. Sea Eagles by 4.
     
  18. Fairy Bower

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    We won 18-8. Gutherson, Farrad and Williams all scoring trys.
     
  19. The Wheel

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    Nice to get one back on the dogs!!
     
  20. The Eagle Has Landed

    The Eagle Has Landed Well-Known Member

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    Is there anyway to watch this on foxtel or free to air?
    It be good to see how our feeder club goes and just watch Manly play this week because this bye is killing me.
     

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