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Player power: why veterans told Toovey to take control

Discussion in 'Uncategorized' started by ManlyBacker, Oct 2, 2013.

By ManlyBacker on Oct 2, 2013 at 7:11 AM
  1. ManlyBacker

    ManlyBacker Winging it Staff Member

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    Manly's senior players demanded more direction and clarity from coach Geoff Toovey in an end-of-season meeting after Toovey's first year at the club.

    Centre Steve Matai said props Brent Kite and Jason King were among the players who voiced concerns regarding Toovey's coaching style as the players adjusted to life after the successful Des Hasler era. The players fully supported Toovey but wanted the premiership-winning captain to take more control.

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Discussion in 'Uncategorized' started by ManlyBacker, Oct 2, 2013.

    1. ManlyBacker

      ManlyBacker Winging it Staff Member

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      Manly's senior players demanded more direction and clarity from coach Geoff Toovey in an end-of-season meeting after Toovey's first year at the club.

      Centre Steve Matai said props Brent Kite and Jason King were among the players who voiced concerns regarding Toovey's coaching style as the players adjusted to life after the successful Des Hasler era. The players fully supported Toovey but wanted the premiership-winning captain to take more control.


      ''A few of the boys walked away from training and were questioning each other last year,'' Matai said. ''I thought it was a tough gig to start with, having everything thrust upon him, and I thought he handled it really well.
      "We asked that he be more direct at the end of last year": Steve Matai of the Sea Eagles.

      ''We asked that he be more direct at the end of last year. Kitey and King expressed that he needed to be a bit more direct and clearer about our jobs. He did that as soon as we got back to training, so a lot of credit goes to 'Tooves'.''

      Toovey's animation is evident in the coaches' box. He rides every play, at times slamming headsets to finish the games red-faced, as he lays it all on the line after 80 minutes. However, Toovey was far more laconic than the players wanted last year.

      ''He didn't put his foot down when we needed him to,'' Matai said. ''He was a bit stand-offish. This pre-season, he was enormous. Everything has come from him and he wasn't relying on his assistant coaches. He was the one who set the standards and, when he did that early, we backed him 100 per cent. We are happy.''

      "Tooves did well to salvage last season and to produce a reasonable result": Brent Kite.

      Manly was bundled out of last year's premiership race with a 40-12 loss to Melbourne, one game shy of back-to-back grand finals. While Toovey has taken on greater control this year, he has relied on assistant coaches David Penna and Brad Arthur - who, in his first year at the club, has helped add extra starch to Manly's forward pack.

      Matai said Toovey's transformation had him in line to become just the sixth person in rugby league history to captain and then coach the same club to premiership glory.

      ''He has done that with his coaching staff in Brad Arthur and Dave Penna, who have been enormous for him as well,'' Matai said. ''He was more direct and a lot clearer about our jobs than last year. The leadership group have done a great job in leading the young kids coming through.''

      Although Toovey had served his coaching under Hasler, the two had different coaching styles. Kite said Hasler's shock departure in the days after their 2011 premiership had an impact on the team.

      ''Tooves did well to salvage last season and to produce a reasonable result,'' Kite said. ''It's not easy [to change coaches]. You've done things under the one guy who is pretty much a strict taskmaster and then change can sort of seem wrong.

      ''Different people wanted to come in and solve the problem. This year, we've let Tooves do it a lot more with his coaching staff. We've gone back to playing football a bit more and letting Tooves worry about the game plan and strategies.''

      Kite said he noticed Toovey was more at ease this year.

      ''I think the pressure was off him because he knew he had what it took - he probably knew that before knowing him but this year has been a lot easier for him,'' Kite said. ''I think everyone besides Tooves thought we had a disappointing year last year.

      ''We wanted to be in another grand final and with what went on with Des wasn't great and there were guys who probably thought they could have done better. But Tooves finished with a preliminary finals appearance in his first year.''

      Michael Carayannis http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/player-power-why-veterans-told-toovey-to-take-control-20131001-2uqsg.html#ixzz2gVUUFpu2
       
    2. SeaEagleRock8

      SeaEagleRock8 Sea Eagle Lach Staff Member Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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      Interesting insight into the dynamics of this remarkable group of Manly players. Great to know Tooves has grown into the role and handled the suggestions from the senior players in such a positive way.

      All looking good in the Sea Eagles going forward. Imagine how excited our new young recruits for next year will be, knowing they are coming into such a happy and well-organised set up.
       
    3. Darren

      Darren Well-Known Member

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      Interesting to say the least. Great that the senior players stepped up and raised their concerns. Not seen as disloyal or dishonest either but just questioning the way the club is going.

      Cambo and others, like on this forum, if players can question than so can we and it doesn't make us anymore disloyal or "loving" to kick the team in the guts!! It's actually people wearing their heart on their sleeve and demanding the best. Matai wanted the hard calls made and not sit back and say everything's wonderful!
      Keep going Ryan and team!! lol
       
    4. Lord Eagleton

      Lord Eagleton Well-Known Member

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      O cool theres another topic being dredged up from the past by the media. I have already read about that in a newspaper before
       
    5. Fluffy

      Fluffy Well-Known Member

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      If all the players did was question then they wouldn't have a job
       
    6. Arko-admirer

      Arko-admirer Active Member

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      This article reminds me of something Watmough said earlier this year, that the senior players sometimes pulled Des up on his crazier ideas.
      Another posted article says that Brett was observing the Roosters from the stands and has some ideas.
      Des was no doubt a great coach but it was not a case of Des and his drones. It seems there is a collective responsibility in what Manly does.
       
    7. manlyfan76

      manlyfan76 Parra Trolls are the best. Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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      Interesting to read again now.
       

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