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Penalty Try

Discussion in 'Rugby League Forum' started by Ralphie, Oct 14, 2013.

  1. Ralphie

    Ralphie Well-Known Member Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    When we were awarded the Penalty Try in the GF I thought it was the right decision. Gould, who I know was biased, kept on making the comment that you couldn't be sure he would have grounded it.

    This is a statement I have heard over and over again when penalty try possibles of the past were disallowed. IF the requirement to award a penalty try was that you had to be sure that he would have scored was the measure then surely no penalty try would ever be awarded. The measure should be on "the balance of probabilities" or "that a try was likely to be scored."

    Does anyone know what the actual wording is for a penalty try to be awarded.
     
  2. Clint

    Clint . Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    TBH Ralphie, I don't think Jamie would have scored. If you have a look at the bounce of the ball, it bounces away from Jamie and I don't think he would have gotten to it.
    Correct decision would have been penalty and 10 in the bin imo.

    I agree with you though re balance of probabilities.
     
  3. Daddycool08

    Daddycool08 Well-Known Member

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    While happy we got the penalty try if I were the ref I would have give4n us a penalty and placed the rooster in the bin for 10 mins.

    Who knows we could have scored twice then while they were short-handed.
     
  4. Hamster Huey

    Hamster Huey Space Invader Premium Member

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    Wording simply states that it can be awarded if the officials believe that a try would have been scored, had the infringement not occured.

    No mention about '99%' certainty or all that other garbage people based on assuming the decision was wrong.
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    Lyon is run off the line of the ball by the tackler forcing him forward. It makes it look worse for Jamie's chances, but without the contact you'd back Jamie to adjust accordingly to get low and dive the final two metres to ground it.
     
  5. bones

    bones Bones Knows Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    IMO Lyon should have to have made an attempt to grab the ball for a penalty try to be considered. He didn't. Instead, he threw his hands in the air when the ball was on the ground and that makes me think a penalty to Manly and 10 in the bin for Aubo was the way to go. Had he attempted to pick the ball up, he may have even scored a try, let alone a penalty try.
     
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  6. Kiwi Eagle

    Kiwi Eagle Moderator Staff Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Clearcut penalty try, don't give that you won't give any again
     
  7. Jatz Crackers

    Jatz Crackers Moderator Staff Member

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    It was most certainly the correct decision and I also agree with your balance of probabilities.

    From the NRL Rule Book:

    Section 6
    Penalty try (d) the Referee may award a penalty try if, in his
    opinion, a try would have been scored but for the
    unfair play of the defending team. A penalty try is
    awarded between the goal posts irrespective of
    where the offence occurred.
     
  8. Clint

    Clint . Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    I know it is irrelevant now, but I can't recall. Did this bit happen?
     
  9. Jatz Crackers

    Jatz Crackers Moderator Staff Member

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    Yep. There was one kick at goal and that was right out front of the posts.
     
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  10. ManlyBacker

    ManlyBacker Winging it Staff Member

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    Clint, Killer took the kick from in front of the posts so I presume it did.
     
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  11. MadMarcus

    MadMarcus Local Lunatic 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    I think there should be more penalty tries awarded to be honest.
     
  12. Clint

    Clint . Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Agreed MM - the JWH headbutt on Horo springs to mind. ;) or the SBW forward pass, or the Pearce off strip, or just referees incompetence - all penalty tries to us.
     
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