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Lawrence and Starling is a big loss. They're our top props and forward leaders and we are missing their aggression and meters.

Pleased someone finally mentioned this, it's actually a pretty big factor.

Imagine if we had these guys as run on, with Willie coming on fresh at 20 minutes.

I reckon our go forward would be 50% better.
 
Pleased someone finally mentioned this, it's actually a pretty big factor.

Imagine if we had these guys as run on, with Willie coming on fresh at 20 minutes.

I reckon our go forward would be 50% better.
Agree, 50% better than nothing is a big improvement. Watched a lot of the other games last weekend and jeez we are a long way off the pace.
 
The dogs lost a couple of props and got flogged big time (worse than us) against the lowly dragons so yes it makes a big difference.

We are also yet to finish a game with 17 players, this also makes a difference and probably explains why we tire in the last 20 minutes.
 

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