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News: Wolfie sidelined for season

Discussion in 'Rugby League Forum' started by ManlyBacker, May 14, 2010.

  1. ManlyBacker

    ManlyBacker Winging it Staff Member

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    <p>MANLY winger David Williams will have shoulder surgery next week after he was ruled out for the season on Friday afternoon.</p>


    <a href="http://silvertails.net/news/4777-wolfie-sidelined-for-season.html">Read the full article</a>
     
  2. chrisos

    chrisos Active Member

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  3. Rambo1987

    Rambo1987 Well-Known Member

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    Well I guess we are lucky TRex is in form.

    We can not afford any more injurys this year.
     
  4. Volley

    Volley Well-Known Member

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    Whare might be able to step up. Didn't realise it was pronounced like a 'V'.

    But yeah, an injury or two and we're in a world of hurt. Matai's due for a few weeks on the sideline, Lyon out for origin. Be interesting.
     
  5. Darren

    Darren Well-Known Member

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    heck, brett with 2 long term injuries and williams with another long termer, both I belive have been signed up long term, this isn't good
     
  6. Kiwi Eagle

    Kiwi Eagle Moderator Staff Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Poor bloke, only positive is he is still so early in his career that once back fit he has many years left in him
     
  7. brookiegreg

    brookiegreg Active Member

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    Poor Wolfie must be a big letdown for him - does anyone know whether its the same shoulder that he buggered in the world club challenge match last year at Elland Road, which kept him out for several months in the 09 season?
     
  8. OneEyedEagle

    OneEyedEagle Well-Known Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Hope he comes back next year fitter, stronger and full of confidence. Good luck to wolfie, hope the op goes well.
     
  9. byso

    byso Well-Known Member

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    From memory he had many injuries before coming to Manly. Hope he has more good play left in him.
     
  10. Ryan

    Ryan Well-Known Member

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    I'm going to say this, and I know I will get a lot of heat for it, but:-

    + I think it's time for us to cut our losses, and cut Brett Stewart from the club. He's chewing up 10% of the salary cap alone odd, and in a competition as tight as this, starting every year with that ticking time bomb starts us behind the eight ball automatically. His knees are hurting us on the field, and of coarse we know he has sullied the brand (guilty or not) off the field - he put HIMSELF in that situation - no-one else did.

    + Same can be said of Wolfman. We have a roster that is already too injury prone with players like Matai, Perry, Rose and Rodney (and I appreciate that Matai mans up, and plays through. Wolfman doesn't add enough value to warrant paying him anything over $70k odd (and that amount is primarily due to injury status).

    We have players in my opinion, already able to fill the void, in Whare, and Hopoate (not right now, but probably ready next year with another full off season, and like it or not Tony Williams isn't a backline player. People should look at a player like Manu Vatuvai (poor spelling I know) to see what Tony should be like - but doing that shows how far away he is. I have no doubts that if Lyon wasn't next to him, and we had an average centre, he'd being looking mediocre (well, MORE than he currently is anyway).

    Nursing players year after year just isn't viable (and that means both on and off the field).

    My suggestions. Use Stewarts money to buy Josh Dugan. Then go with something like:-

    01. Josh Dugan
    02. Michael Robertson
    03. Steve Matai
    04. Jamie Lyon
    05. William Hopoate (groomed on the wing, before progressing)
    06. Keiran Foran
    07. Trent Hodkinson

    Rumours have it Brett's knees are shot. Some say he'll be coming back with much less pace. Look, the decision may be taken out of the clubs hands at any rate come September, but personally, I'm over the whole situation both on and off the park.

    Farrar is doing an admirable job at any rate.
     
  11. Kiwi Eagle

    Kiwi Eagle Moderator Staff Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Ryan, I don't want to go through that effort piece by piece, but all I will say is that the majority of that post is a mile wide of the mark
     
  12. Ryan

    Ryan Well-Known Member

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    I expect as much Kiwi, I really do - they are fan favourites. I'm just thinking in a business sense, and for the club, rather than the individual. At full strength, and not plagued with injury, any team would want them on the field.

    For mine, it's not personal. It's just the fact that we need circa $4 mill+ competing on the fielkd as much as possible.

    Kosef was great as well, before unfortunately the game was taken away from him through reasons out of his control.
     
  13. Pepi

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    I think one thing that has made us such a successful team over the last 5 or so years is the tightness of the group. They play for each other and Des.

    Look at our talent on paper over the last couple of years, it is not that far ahead of Parramatta, but the thing that sets us apart is the players are happy to be here. Its a positive environment.
    Brett Stewart is best mates with a lot of the players, I'm sure Glenn wouldn't be the only one on his bike if we were to release Brett.

    I guess we should have pissed Rose off when he shattered his leg into a million places a few years back?
     
  14. Ryan

    Ryan Well-Known Member

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    I wouldn't know, he's currently been on the sideline for a huge chunk of the season, and is rumoured to be out a good chunk more, then will have to come back and get match fit again.

    Not the best example Pepi. Wolfman and Stewart are just the same....actually probably BETTER players at full strength. Rose just supports that theory.

    If Glenn quit the club because Manly wouldn't pay $400k+ per annum to Brett to sit on the sidelines, then I'd have to question his character. Nope, I'm of the opinion, Glenn would understand, and really, so would Brett.

    I wonder how many other current clubs would take his $400k odd contract on given all with injury and court case????
     
  15. Kiwi Eagle

    Kiwi Eagle Moderator Staff Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    I think you are completely wrong on Big Williams mate. He is going perfectly fine on the wing, not making many errors, doing his work from dummy half, putting on some big hits and catching the high balls, while taking every opportunity presented to him

    If Brett was 28, I may agree with you, but he is still a quality footballer, and even if does lose a bit of pace, his football brain is still worth plenty. I am a Dugan fan, but I wouldn't be shunting a 23-24 year old Stewart aside for him just yet. I also read today that Dugan is almost certain to join the Roosters because he doesn't like the Furners

    Des has something special at this club with the loyalty we show to blokes, and I am sure it helps attracting players to our club
     
  16. Pepi

    Pepi Well-Known Member

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    What i am trying to say is, our success is built on the fact that we haven't been a transit lounge like many other teams. The guys stick together and play for one another.
    I think you are underestimating the influence of team morale...
     
  17. Darren

    Darren Well-Known Member

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    I sorta  agree Ryan, but loyalty to players is a big thing!! Brett is 25 and I heard that he has the injuries that Bowen has so that is big concerns. David Williams came to Manly after successive injuries and here he is again in the same boat. It is a big worry.
     
  18. Cameron

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    ryan sometimes i dont know what goes on in that head of yours.
    Thats a dog act post
    This is manly mate not norths we stick by our own in good and tough times.
    Brett is our champion of our club on and off the field and deserves more than the tripe you just offered up.
     
  19. Cameron

    Cameron Cambo Premium Member

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    ryan you say perry is injury prone can u tell me how many games hes missed since coming to manly in 08
     
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    Dugan seems like he would be high maintenance from the articles I've read recently. Not sure I would want him at the club.
     

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