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Matai

Discussion in 'Rugby League Forum' started by Stillman, Apr 8, 2008.

  1. Stillman

    Stillman Active Member

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    With Matai due to return some time in the next few week, where do you all think he should be played? We all have the fear that Des will be Des and play him back in the centres and Lyon will be a 5/8 once again but where on the park do you think he would be most valuable?
     
  2. willstyles

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    Both he and Lyon are most suited to the left centre position. They obviously can't both play there so one would have to move, but that being the case I’m sure Matai would be able to switch to the right hand side of the field and still do good things over there.

    But yeah, Manly would be best served by having them both in the centres, leaving Belly out in the cold a bit... which is a bit sad, but I think Matai will have a more positive impact out there at the moment.

    But yeah, Des will move Lyon back to the halves. We all know it.
     
  3. Stillman

    Stillman Active Member

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    Lyon was a right centre before his 'sucessful' move into the halves so maybe moving him there would work best for all.
     
  4. Dan

    Dan Administrator Staff Member Administrator 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    I just Hope Des can see what everyone else can see and that, that is Lyon is no half. Maybe once his confidence is back give him half a game there but for mine we look more dangerous with him running the ball out wide.

    I hate to say it but I think Bell may be the weak link, and Matai may inject a bit of venom, but then again Defense wins games and I think Matai has the ability to cock up pretty badly in defense
     
  5. ManlyBacker

    ManlyBacker Winging it Staff Member

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    I agree. It is hard to see Bell making the Maroons on his form since and including last Origin, but he is safer in defense than Matai. We still need two playmakers as totally relying on Ox is too predictable as other posters have said.
     
  6. Stevie

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    Matai ------------- NSW Cup
     
  7. Stillman

    Stillman Active Member

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    Does anyone actually know how much longer he will be out?
     
  8. Matabele

    Matabele Well-Known Member

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    Lyon will go to 5/8th with a roving commission. 
     
  9. Stevie

    Stevie Active Member

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    :eek: :'( :'(
     
  10. Guest

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    Matai will start in the NSW cup and will get suspended first game back so we won't need to worry about where he will fit into the team.
     
  11. Canteen Worker

    Canteen Worker Well-Known Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Matai in centre - Lyon at 5/8. Put money on it.
     
  12. Matabele

    Matabele Well-Known Member

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    :eek: :'( :'(
    [/quote]  What?  You're not seriously expecting anything else are you?
     
  13. Ryan

    Ryan Well-Known Member

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    01. Brett Stewart
    02. Michael Robertson
    03. Jamie Lyon
    04. Steven Bell
    05. Michael Bani
    06. Steve Menzies
    07. Matt Orford
    08. Jason King
    09. Matt Ballin
    10. Brent Kite
    11. Anthony Watmough
    12. Steve Matai
    13. Glenn Stewart

    14. Heath Le'Strange
    15. Josh Perry
    16. Mark Bryant
    17. Adam Cuthbertson

    I would ask Adam Cuthbertson to run a little wider, to utilise his offload.
    I'd ask Matai to take advantage of tiring props up the gets, but defend wider.

    We's have Kite / Bryant / King / Perry who can all rotate the prop position.

    Beaver is like a running forward anyway.

    Someone said they'd give Matai a roving position. I agree. BUT, Des needs to make sure he defends as and with the team.
     
  14. Canteen Worker

    Canteen Worker Well-Known Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Matai is not a forward. It would give us the smallest backrow in the competition. ( I know small is good for some things). We need size and mobility to combat some of the bigger sides in the comp.

    You know the old adage: A good big team will always beat a good little team.
     
  15. clontaago

    clontaago Well-Known Member

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    Horses for courses. I think Matai would be a great selection in the forwards against sides like the Tigers and the Warriors.

    All the good judges are suggesting Matai will eventually be moved into the forwards.
     
  16. DSM5

    DSM5 Well-Known Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Strange how it is that someone with the defensive problems Stevie Wonder often displays can be considered for first grade without having a run in reserves.  I'd say he'd be very rusty.  Anyway the way Hasler makes positional decisions I'd be amazed if he didn't put him at centre and Lyon back to a very unsatisfactory 5/8th.  If Hasler desperately needed to have him in the side maybe he could have him on the bench in place of Bryant.  Coming in when the opposition is tired as a second rower or replace Bell when he's crabbed sideways ten times.  Matai at his best at least runs forward. 
     
  17. Ryan

    Ryan Well-Known Member

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    Our side IS probably at its strongest with Matai at center to be honest (not wthstanding results).
     
  18. Canteen Worker

    Canteen Worker Well-Known Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    I am obviously not a good judge!!! However I can't see him standing the battering he would cop in the forwards. He is not big framed!
     
  19. Ryan

    Ryan Well-Known Member

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    Either is Allan Tongue right?
     
  20. Jatz Crackers

    Jatz Crackers Moderator Staff Member

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    Each week that return date gets pushed back ! So is his neck the cause for the continual delays in his return or is the selection headache to much ?
     

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