Manly v Eels [Round 24 2014]
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I love Thursday night football BECAUSE it means I can watch a live game on Friday night!!!
PS: probably it's because the Donkeys play Saturday but with one game on Saturday it's live baby oh yeah !!!
PS: probably it's because the Donkeys play Saturday but with one game on Saturday it's live baby oh yeah !!!
Ralphie said:
I agree with your 1st paragraph. I feel parra are going to be very very hard to beat come Friday. If we play anything like we did last week we are going to find it very hard to win.
No confident at all
EagleFromMay1967
Sky Punching : send them High as the Clouds
It'll be interesting to see W Hoppa line up against Ol Warhorse Skivvy Matai. Reckon Hoppa will be a little nervous.
Wonder if ever regrets his move and whether he may at any time 'come back to the fold' ?
Wonder also indeed whether he regrets his two years missing from the game . . .
Wonder if ever regrets his move and whether he may at any time 'come back to the fold' ?
Wonder also indeed whether he regrets his two years missing from the game . . .
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Eels v Sea Eagles preview
By Chris Kennedy, National Correspondent
NRL.com
1:28pm Wed 20th August, 2014
Eels v Sea Eagles
Pirtek Stadium
Friday, 7.40pm
There was more than a touch of controversy about Manly's last-gasp 22-18 win over the Eels at Brookvale back in Round 3, and if you think the Eels have forgotten about it... well, you didn't see Brad Arthur's post-match press conference last week.
The former Manly deputy is still furious over some contentious rulings in that game that cost his side dearly and he made mention of it last week in the wake of "ball boy-gate" and a hotly-debated 40/20 restart that could have helped his team snatch victory over the Bulldogs.
Back in Round 3 it was a penalty against Semi Radradra for a high shot in the act of trapping Daly-Cherry-Evans in-goal three minutes from time – deemed OK on field but overturned by the video referee after the Manly half stayed down – that gave the Sea Eagles a chance to steal a win. Like a thief in the night, they grabbed victory in the final minute just two plays after a sideways play-the-ball from James Hasson in a game where Eels (and former Manly) prop David Gower had himself earlier been penalised for an almost identical act.
Those two points could well prove crucial to the Eels' finals hopes – as will the two points on offer this weekend, with the side on equal seventh with 26 competition points but in ninth due to their woeful for-and-against.
While we're at it – we've already mentioned Arthur and Gower, each of whom was part of the Manly set-up at Grand Final time last year but the crossover doesn't end there. Eels forward Darcy Lussick and centre Will Hopoate were also part of the Manly club in recent years, while the Parramatta connections at Manly are so strong it would almost be quicker to name the Manly players with no links to the Eels.
Skipper Jamie Lyon obviously cut his teeth in blue and gold, Cheyse Blair and Justin Horo are also former Eels while Jorge Taufua played NYC for Parramatta.
Any player will tell you it's a little bit extra special getting a win over your former club and there will be plenty of players on both sides looking to do that this week.
With the Eels much improved compared to previous years, this grudge match is no gimme for Manly and should make for gripping viewing. As mentioned the Eels are still desperately clinging on to the finals zone – their three straight wins kept them right in the mix but last week's narrow loss to Canterbury made the equation tougher.
For Manly, their Round 22 loss to Souths blew the race for the minor premiership wide open – a win here would keep them two points clear at the top as well as all but seal a top-two finish.
The Eels have Junior Paulo returning from suspension at prop, pushing Fuifui Moimoi to NSW Cup, and Peni Terepo back from a knee injury in place of Pauli Pauli. David Gower has also been named despite picking up a knee injury last week.
The Sea Eagles have named left centre Steve Matai to return from a shoulder injury sustained in a George Burgess chicken wing tackle a fortnight ago, in place of Cheyse Blair. Matai was originally slated to return in Round 25 so may yet be a late withdrawal on Friday.
Watch Out Eels: Clutch players stand up in big games and while the Sea Eagles were unconvincing in edging out the Titans 15-12 last week, the try that Kieran Foran and Daly Cherry-Evans combined for, and the latter's field goal in the dying stages – off his left foot, no less – show why Manly will always be a tough team to beat. Throw in the sublime form of fullback Brett Stewart (eight tries, 20 try assists in 2014) and Manly have surely the most dangerous 1-6-7 combination in the competition right now.
Watch Out Sea Eagles: Speaking of form fullbacks: somehow Jarryd Hayne just keeps churning out the monster efforts every week. In his past four games – three wins for the Eels and last week's narrow loss to the Dogs – Hayne has seven tries, 40 tackle breaks and 1,040 metres at 260 per game. His stunning tap-on for Semi Radradra's first try last week (the pair each have 18 now to be co-competition leaders) show that when he is in this sort of form he just makes things happen. He's been heavily marked and still found a way to excel and you can bet he'll be heavily marked again.
Plays To Watch: Will Steve Matai take the field, and if so, will it mark a return of Manly's lethal left-edge attack? Their biggest strength became a weakness when Matai went off against Souths, and they were lacklustre without him on the Gold Coast. If it is Blair again will they still channel traffic through Parramatta's somewhat suspect edge defence?
For the Eels, keep an eye on Sandow's 40/20 attempts. He's had the radar working in 2014 – the controversy over the restart last week took the gloss over what was a stunning, precision kick under huge pressure when his team desperately needed it. It was his fifth of the year, which is easily the most by any player (several players are next on three), and he's had plenty of near-misses as well that have put opposition wingers and fullbacks under immense pressure. A couple have sailed out on the full but it hasn't deterred him – if his side is under pressure look for him to have another crack.
Where It Will Be Won: Sliding defence. The Eels have improved drastically under Arthur – who would've taken plenty of notes during his time at Melbourne and Manly – and they'll need to slide perfectly to deal with Manly's lethal edge-raids. The Eels themselves have become pretty good at hammering the fringes, as Hayne and Radradra's 18 tries apiece will testify, but Manly's defence (322 points conceded – second fewest in NRL) is usually up to the task. The Eels’ forwards showed last week they are capable of matching it with the big boys but it won't help if they can't finish the job in their opponent’s red-zone.
History: Played 142; Sea Eagles 89, Eels 49, drawn 4. Manly are on a four game winning run against the Eels, who have beaten the northern beaches boys just once in their past seven meetings and just three times in their past 14. The Eels though have won four of their past six against Manly in games played at Parramatta. The Eels' last win over this Friday's opponents came in March 2012 – a game in which current Eels forward Darcy Lussick was a visitor and current Manly centre Cheyse Blair lined up for the home side. Perhaps unsurprisingly, Jarryd Hayne was the match-winner in that one with a two-try effort.
What Are The Odds: Sportsbet opened the Eels ($2.25) at $2.75 but that price didn’t last long. Still, it’s a fairly even betting match, with the Sea Eagles at $1.50. All the first try-scoring money has gone on leading try-scorers Jarryd Hayne and Semi Radradra. Latest odds at Sportsbet.com.au.
Match Officials: Referees – Gerard Sutton & Alan Shortall; Touch Judges – Nick Beashel & Russell Turner; Video Referees – Steve Clark & Luke Patten.
Televised: Channel Nine, Live, 7.30pm.
The Way We See It: We're not expecting Manly to replicate the 40-6 margin they conjured against the soon-to-be wooden spooners on their previous visit here in August last year, but it is still a very tall order for Parramatta against the competition leaders. It's not a done deal by any stretch and a little Hayne magic could go a long way but we'll have to tip last years' grand finalists to get the job done. Manly by 10.
http://www.nrl.com/eels-v-sea-eagles-preview/tabid/10874/newsid/81158/default.aspx
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Eels v Sea Eagles preview
By Chris Kennedy, National Correspondent
NRL.com
1:28pm Wed 20th August, 2014
Eels v Sea Eagles
Pirtek Stadium
Friday, 7.40pm
There was more than a touch of controversy about Manly's last-gasp 22-18 win over the Eels at Brookvale back in Round 3, and if you think the Eels have forgotten about it... well, you didn't see Brad Arthur's post-match press conference last week.
The former Manly deputy is still furious over some contentious rulings in that game that cost his side dearly and he made mention of it last week in the wake of "ball boy-gate" and a hotly-debated 40/20 restart that could have helped his team snatch victory over the Bulldogs.
Back in Round 3 it was a penalty against Semi Radradra for a high shot in the act of trapping Daly-Cherry-Evans in-goal three minutes from time – deemed OK on field but overturned by the video referee after the Manly half stayed down – that gave the Sea Eagles a chance to steal a win. Like a thief in the night, they grabbed victory in the final minute just two plays after a sideways play-the-ball from James Hasson in a game where Eels (and former Manly) prop David Gower had himself earlier been penalised for an almost identical act.
Those two points could well prove crucial to the Eels' finals hopes – as will the two points on offer this weekend, with the side on equal seventh with 26 competition points but in ninth due to their woeful for-and-against.
While we're at it – we've already mentioned Arthur and Gower, each of whom was part of the Manly set-up at Grand Final time last year but the crossover doesn't end there. Eels forward Darcy Lussick and centre Will Hopoate were also part of the Manly club in recent years, while the Parramatta connections at Manly are so strong it would almost be quicker to name the Manly players with no links to the Eels.
Skipper Jamie Lyon obviously cut his teeth in blue and gold, Cheyse Blair and Justin Horo are also former Eels while Jorge Taufua played NYC for Parramatta.
Any player will tell you it's a little bit extra special getting a win over your former club and there will be plenty of players on both sides looking to do that this week.
With the Eels much improved compared to previous years, this grudge match is no gimme for Manly and should make for gripping viewing. As mentioned the Eels are still desperately clinging on to the finals zone – their three straight wins kept them right in the mix but last week's narrow loss to Canterbury made the equation tougher.
For Manly, their Round 22 loss to Souths blew the race for the minor premiership wide open – a win here would keep them two points clear at the top as well as all but seal a top-two finish.
The Eels have Junior Paulo returning from suspension at prop, pushing Fuifui Moimoi to NSW Cup, and Peni Terepo back from a knee injury in place of Pauli Pauli. David Gower has also been named despite picking up a knee injury last week.
The Sea Eagles have named left centre Steve Matai to return from a shoulder injury sustained in a George Burgess chicken wing tackle a fortnight ago, in place of Cheyse Blair. Matai was originally slated to return in Round 25 so may yet be a late withdrawal on Friday.
Watch Out Eels: Clutch players stand up in big games and while the Sea Eagles were unconvincing in edging out the Titans 15-12 last week, the try that Kieran Foran and Daly Cherry-Evans combined for, and the latter's field goal in the dying stages – off his left foot, no less – show why Manly will always be a tough team to beat. Throw in the sublime form of fullback Brett Stewart (eight tries, 20 try assists in 2014) and Manly have surely the most dangerous 1-6-7 combination in the competition right now.
Watch Out Sea Eagles: Speaking of form fullbacks: somehow Jarryd Hayne just keeps churning out the monster efforts every week. In his past four games – three wins for the Eels and last week's narrow loss to the Dogs – Hayne has seven tries, 40 tackle breaks and 1,040 metres at 260 per game. His stunning tap-on for Semi Radradra's first try last week (the pair each have 18 now to be co-competition leaders) show that when he is in this sort of form he just makes things happen. He's been heavily marked and still found a way to excel and you can bet he'll be heavily marked again.
Plays To Watch: Will Steve Matai take the field, and if so, will it mark a return of Manly's lethal left-edge attack? Their biggest strength became a weakness when Matai went off against Souths, and they were lacklustre without him on the Gold Coast. If it is Blair again will they still channel traffic through Parramatta's somewhat suspect edge defence?
For the Eels, keep an eye on Sandow's 40/20 attempts. He's had the radar working in 2014 – the controversy over the restart last week took the gloss over what was a stunning, precision kick under huge pressure when his team desperately needed it. It was his fifth of the year, which is easily the most by any player (several players are next on three), and he's had plenty of near-misses as well that have put opposition wingers and fullbacks under immense pressure. A couple have sailed out on the full but it hasn't deterred him – if his side is under pressure look for him to have another crack.
Where It Will Be Won: Sliding defence. The Eels have improved drastically under Arthur – who would've taken plenty of notes during his time at Melbourne and Manly – and they'll need to slide perfectly to deal with Manly's lethal edge-raids. The Eels themselves have become pretty good at hammering the fringes, as Hayne and Radradra's 18 tries apiece will testify, but Manly's defence (322 points conceded – second fewest in NRL) is usually up to the task. The Eels’ forwards showed last week they are capable of matching it with the big boys but it won't help if they can't finish the job in their opponent’s red-zone.
History: Played 142; Sea Eagles 89, Eels 49, drawn 4. Manly are on a four game winning run against the Eels, who have beaten the northern beaches boys just once in their past seven meetings and just three times in their past 14. The Eels though have won four of their past six against Manly in games played at Parramatta. The Eels' last win over this Friday's opponents came in March 2012 – a game in which current Eels forward Darcy Lussick was a visitor and current Manly centre Cheyse Blair lined up for the home side. Perhaps unsurprisingly, Jarryd Hayne was the match-winner in that one with a two-try effort.
What Are The Odds: Sportsbet opened the Eels ($2.25) at $2.75 but that price didn’t last long. Still, it’s a fairly even betting match, with the Sea Eagles at $1.50. All the first try-scoring money has gone on leading try-scorers Jarryd Hayne and Semi Radradra. Latest odds at Sportsbet.com.au.
Match Officials: Referees – Gerard Sutton & Alan Shortall; Touch Judges – Nick Beashel & Russell Turner; Video Referees – Steve Clark & Luke Patten.
Televised: Channel Nine, Live, 7.30pm.
The Way We See It: We're not expecting Manly to replicate the 40-6 margin they conjured against the soon-to-be wooden spooners on their previous visit here in August last year, but it is still a very tall order for Parramatta against the competition leaders. It's not a done deal by any stretch and a little Hayne magic could go a long way but we'll have to tip last years' grand finalists to get the job done. Manly by 10.
http://www.nrl.com/eels-v-sea-eagles-preview/tabid/10874/newsid/81158/default.aspx
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Won't surprise me if this turns out to be our last loss for 2014.
I don't expect to win this one nor the last game, and that will mean finishing second ( I think Souths have a loss in them as well).
An then I expect (hope) we will ramp up nicely for a shot at glory.
An then I expect (hope) we will ramp up nicely for a shot at glory.
Mark from Brisbane said:
That has been my thinking as well Mark for a couple of weeks now.
Just think parra have too much to play for on Friday.
davohan123 said:
I beat you to it @mickqld
davohan123 said:
I think Parra's going to be very hard to beat as they were robbed last week so the refs will be favouring them. We'll not only be playing against Parra, we'll be playing against the pinkies too. The result will depend on how disciplined we are.
wedgetail eagle
Bencher
At an Airport, grabbed RLW. Story by Greg Pritchard, about Manly-Parra rivalry, Manly are the villains of course. The Rd3 clash, he says Parra were robbed,
(they led the game for 10 minutes, FFS)
he goes on to say HAD Parra won they'd be in the 8 now, blah blah..
Like my old Dad says, HAD the dog not stopped to sh*t, he would've caught the rabbit.
(they led the game for 10 minutes, FFS)
he goes on to say HAD Parra won they'd be in the 8 now, blah blah..
Like my old Dad says, HAD the dog not stopped to sh*t, he would've caught the rabbit.
sheridanstand78
First Grader
I expect Manly to be much sharper this week and take more of the opportunities that we create.
Parra have done this week what they do expertly, whinge and moan without adressing their own mediocrity.
This game for me is about getting the basics right and limiting Haynes opportunities. They will be desparate but so should we as we have a real chance to put pressure on the vermin for the minor premiership if we get a result here.
Nothing beats seeing a Manly team win at Whinger park. They are and they always will be the oldest enemy!!
Parra have done this week what they do expertly, whinge and moan without adressing their own mediocrity.
This game for me is about getting the basics right and limiting Haynes opportunities. They will be desparate but so should we as we have a real chance to put pressure on the vermin for the minor premiership if we get a result here.
Nothing beats seeing a Manly team win at Whinger park. They are and they always will be the oldest enemy!!
Beware the j-curve. Jamie, Jorge, Jesse, Jason, Jamie, James, Josh.
Jumping Jehoshaphat!
Edit - and Justin!
Jumping Jehoshaphat!
Edit - and Justin!
| Team | P | W | L | PD | Pts |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
|
5 | 4 | 1 | 23 | 10 |
|
5 | 4 | 1 | 14 | 10 |
|
6 | 4 | 2 | 48 | 8 |
|
6 | 4 | 2 | 28 | 8 |
|
5 | 3 | 2 | 25 | 8 |
|
5 | 3 | 2 | 14 | 8 |
|
6 | 3 | 2 | 38 | 7 |
|
6 | 3 | 2 | 21 | 7 |
|
6 | 3 | 3 | 37 | 6 |
|
6 | 3 | 3 | 16 | 6 |
|
6 | 3 | 3 | -13 | 6 |
|
5 | 2 | 3 | -15 | 6 |
|
6 | 3 | 3 | -36 | 6 |
|
6 | 2 | 4 | -5 | 4 |
|
6 | 2 | 4 | -7 | 4 |
|
5 | 0 | 5 | -86 | 2 |
|
6 | 1 | 5 | -102 | 2 |
